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Old 03-27-2010, 11:01 PM
 
Location: Northern Va. from N.J.
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The problem with this forum is that on one hand you have hatefull anti-Catholic bigots that try to portray the Church in the worst possible light, going as far as to misrepresent what Catholics believe, and on the other hand you have Catholic apologists that tend to look at the Church through rose color glasses.

For one thing all the hateful anti-Catholic bigots here, and I know I don't have to start naming names you know who you are and so do the rational people that come here know who you are, should go straighten out your own houses of worship because from where I sit it looks like many of you are worshipping in a pigsty.

 
Old 03-27-2010, 11:13 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I was raised in a Catholic home and educated in Catholic schools, and many Catholics have blinded themselves to the horrible abuses of power some priests and educators in those schools and churches practice. The are no rose colored glasses that are strong enough to remove the stink that seems to be endemic in the priesthood.
 
Old 03-27-2010, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Northern Va. from N.J.
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The major gay rights groups remain silent on the transgressions of their members. The Vatican has condemned this behavior and eradicated it from the their ranks. Yet these perversions still persist among homosexuals in the secular world. These homosexual groups are given a pass and not held accountable for the behavior of their members even as children are continuously being molested. (http://www.seattlepi.com/local/6420ap_wa_colville_counselor_pleads.html - broken link) It is time that gay rights groups are held accountable for the children molested by their members.
Samyn take off the rose color glasses, you don't have to pretend anymore.
The hierarchy doesn't need any help in bringing themselves down, they are doing fine by themselves, they don't need any help.
 
Old 03-27-2010, 11:23 PM
 
Location: Northern Va. from N.J.
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I was raised in a Catholic home and educated in Catholic schools, and many Catholics have blinded themselves to the horrible abuses of power some priests and educators in those schools and churches practice. The are no rose colored glasses that are strong enough to remove the stink that seems to be endemic in the priesthood.
Maybe you should worry more about whatever church/faith you belong to now.
btw what Catholic University were you educated at?
 
Old 03-27-2010, 11:26 PM
 
Location: New York
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Default I am not a parrot/no specs

This is not pretend nor am I a parrot that repeats news stories. My vision is 20/20. The plain truth is that homosexual molestation is a perversion endemic to homosexuals, not Catholics or the Catholic clergy. This behavior persists and is given carte blanche within the secular schools.


The Catholic Church addressed the legal aggression from the secular world years ago, but this is a story that is recycled year after year for shock factor at important Holy times. All the while secular homosexuals are allowed to continue to molest with no mass identification of the perversion endemic to their persuasion.

The question here in this thread is where do we go from here? You go after the major gay rights organizations and sue them for the behavior that is endemic to the people that they represent and procure justice for those violated.
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Samyn take off the rose color glasses, you don't have to pretend anymore.
The hierarchy doesn't need any help in bringing themselves down, they are doing fine by themselves, they don't need any help.
 
Old 03-27-2010, 11:48 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Wow...Your rose colored glasses must be really thick....Child molesters are attracted to children and homosexuals are attracted to the same sex.....One has nothing to do with the other.
 
Old 03-28-2010, 12:06 AM
 
Location: New York
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Default please take off the blinders

Homosexuals are 40 times more likely to molest children than heterosexuals. In addition pedophiles are 620 times more likely to homosexual than heterosexual. There is a direct link between the two behaviors. Need I repeat that this is a homosexual issue and not a Catholic issue? It is time to go after the homosexual groups and hold them accountable for the behavior that they condone.
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Wow...Your rose colored glasses must be really thick....Child molesters are attracted to children and homosexuals are attracted to the same sex.....One has nothing to do with the other.
 
Old 03-28-2010, 12:06 AM
 
Location: Earth
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It is time for the laity to reclaim our proper role in the governance and guidance of the Catholic Church.

Press Release - VOTF SAYS ITS TIME TO REBUILD OUR CHURCH | VOICE OF THE FAITHFUL
Banish special treatment for all religions.
Tax them.
 
Old 03-28-2010, 03:58 AM
 
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These stories about abuse are being rehashed from the 1960's! They bring this up every year around Holy week to keep the sheeple as secular as can be with these fear tactics. There is always going to be an anti-Catholic bias in the Anglo-empire; in England they still have a holiday(Guy Fawkes night) were Catholics are burned in effigy at the stake. The last English monarch that recognized Rome was quickly assassinated by Parliament. The animus against the ancient and true Church of Jesus Christ has persisted from almost 500 years. Can you imagine another ethic group or religion having a holiday where they are burned at the stake? Only Catholics face this kind of bias, no other group.


This homosexual abuse issue is not so much as a Catholic problem as it is a homosexual issue. The rate of sexual abuse is much higher in the secular schools than in Catholic schools. We only hear about the abuse from the Catholic schools because it fits into a larger agenda of taking the name of Christ and the moral law out of the western lexicon. How ironic that the only major western institution to properly label homosexuality as a perversion is targeted for persecution for the behavior of the homosexuals within their ranks. This behavior is not a reflection of Catholics or the clergy but ipso facto of homosexuals. If people were abused by homosexuals they should question the major homosexual groups and the homosexuals themselves to account for their perverted actions.
Seems like you've got a bit of an anti-homosexual crusade going there.

How about injecting some "facts" into the debate rather than trying to lay the blame on homosexuals? What you are doing is no better than those involved in the cover up of the abuse.

Report: Homosexuality No Factor in Abusive Priests

A Report on the Crisis in the Catholic Church in the United States, National Review Board, February 27, 2004


Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation

A Study of almost 4000 convicted child molestors shows that the vast majority of child molestors identify as heterosexual, are married, have children and are religious.
http://www.childmolestationpreventio...the_facts.html
 
Old 03-28-2010, 04:07 AM
 
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Homosexuals are 40 times more likely to molest children than heterosexuals. In addition pedophiles are 620 times more likely to homosexual than heterosexual. There is a direct link between the two behaviors. Need I repeat that this is a homosexual issue and not a Catholic issue? It is time to go after the homosexual groups and hold them accountable for the behavior that they condone.
Complete and utter bull**** based on ignorance and misrepresentation.

Perhaps you'd like to see step by step how people like theologians like Timothy Daily of the Family Resource Council have completely misrepresented and lied about studies to support their rabidly anti-gay claims? No doubt they think people who read their rubbish are too stupid, lazy and bigoted to actually track down their sources and realise what they are claiming has no basis in reality or fact.
Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation

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