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Old 05-12-2010, 08:11 AM
 
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We are here for an experience in contrasts. It is but a tiny blip in infinity/eternity although it seems way too hard and long from this humans perspective.

Most believers see Creator/creation as separate - which is the skewed view from within the matrix. Once the knowledge of panENtheistic reality dawns in our minds the purpose (for this particular conscious existence) is seen to be suffering/fragility/desperation/fear contrasted against bliss/stability/peace/love.
i see what your saying,

-we are all here to either,suffer or enjoy.
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Old 05-12-2010, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Epicurus fails to note this:

God wants evil to exist for a time, and then He will abolish it. The riches we will receive by this experience of evil will far outweigh (infinitely) any suffering we go through on this earth.
See if someone who was a prisoner of war and tortured for years believes that.

Or a girl who was raped over and over for years.

The old person who falls ill and dies of starvation because no family is around.

If this God is merciful then none of those things would have ever happened. There for, since these things do happen there really isn't a God like the one depicted in the bible.
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Old 05-12-2010, 04:24 PM
 
Location: texas
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Is this a real post? How can possibly anyone know as to when the earth was made, much less the universe? I mean come on really? I've heard from millions of years to billions of years ago. What does it matter? Really? Don't we have more pressing matters to deal with, like unemployment, welfare, on going wars, oil spilling onto our shores, etc. I guess someone was really bored themselves to post this.....
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Old 05-12-2010, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Earth, Milky Way
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Is this a real post? How can possibly anyone know as to when the earth was made, much less the universe? I mean come on really? I've heard from millions of years to billions of years ago. What does it matter? Really? Don't we have more pressing matters to deal with, like unemployment, welfare, on going wars, oil spilling onto our shores, etc. I guess someone was really bored themselves to post this.....
Maybe you are in the wrong forum. There are others that deal with more concrete matters such as those you mention. A passion is never a bore.
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Old 05-12-2010, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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The Universe is somewhere between 12 and 14 billion years old, or10,000 years or less for those that follow Creationism (the age of the universe doesn't matter for the sake of this question).

God was not born and so had been doing his thing (presumably nothing, since nothing existed) in the middle of nowhere (since nothing existed), for ever. Then, Suddenly, God decided to Create a Universe.

What made him Suddenly Decide to make something? Wouldn't something have had to happen to inspire such a creation after so long doing nothing?
The Bible describes events starting at "the beginning." But "the beginning" is a relative statement. The beginning of what? Well, the beginning of what is relative to us. I don't know how someone who believed that this was the only universe God had ever created would answer your question. Since I believe He has created "worlds without number," I would have to say that He was very busy creating other worlds (not in our solar system, not even in our galaxy, but somewhere out there... )
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