Which Day to Worship: Sunday, or Satuday? (genesis, atheist, priest)
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It is offensive to traditional Jews to use the term "Old Testament" as this indicates that the Bible has been replaced or superseded (supersessionism) by a "New Testament", the Christian Bible.
Traditional Judaism does not accept that the Bible, or if you prefer, the Jewish Bible, has been replaced or superseded by the Christian Bible.
According to Maimonides (Rabbi Moses ben Maimon, otherwise known by the acronym Rambam, 1135-1204 C.E.), "The Written Torah (first 5 books of the Bible) and Oral Torah (teachings now contained in the Talmud and other writings) were given to Moses and there will be no other Torah (Source: Rambam's thirteen principles of faith).
It is offensive to traditional Jews to use the term "Old Testament" as this indicates that the Bible has been replaced or superseded (supersessionism) by a "New Testament", the Christian Bible.
Traditional Judaism does not accept that the Bible, or if you prefer, the Jewish Bible, has been replaced or superseded by the Christian Bible.
According to Maimonides (Rabbi Moses ben Maimon, otherwise known by the acronym Rambam, 1135-1204 C.E.), "The Written Torah (first 5 books of the Bible) and Oral Torah (teachings now contained in the Talmud and other writings) were given to Moses and there will be no other Torah (Source: Rambam's thirteen principles of faith).
::Sigh:: This is far worse than the literalist Christian fundamentalists who misread the OT and corrupt the NT message of Christ with its barbarous understandings.
::Sigh:: This is far worse than the literalist Christian fundamentalists who misread the OT and corrupt the NT message of Christ with its barbarous understandings.:eek:
I honestly gave all the religions a shot after my epiphany. The Torah and Talmud contain all the worst beliefs about God produced under the veil of ignorance that Jesus sought to correct. So . . . NO, I definitely am not.
The Torah and Talmud contain all the worst beliefs about God produced under the veil of ignorance that Jesus sought to correct.
Except that Jesus of Nazareth was an observant Jew who followed all the Mitzvot (Commandments) in the written Torah and the Oral Torah (the Oral Torah had not yet been written down as part of the Talmud).
Except that Jesus of Nazareth was an observant Jew who followed all the Mitzvot (Commandments) in the written Torah and the Oral Torah (the Oral Torah had not yet been written down as part of the Talmud).
Yes I agree. Jesus Christ never broke the Law. Not once. He never sinned. Neither in deed nor thought.
I think that Pharisees and Saducees put themselves up as people who lived by the Law but such posturing made them hypocrites because if you live by the Law then you must die by the Law.
Anyway, Jesus loves you.
Yes I agree. Jesus Christ never broke the Law. Not once. He never sinned. Neither in deed nor thought.
I think that Pharisees and Saducees put themselves up as people who lived by the Law but such posturing made them hypocrites because if you live by the Law then you must die by the Law.
Anyway, Jesus loves you.
I'm afraid he did. He broke the sabbath, he rubbished the Kashrut laws. No way around it. He broke the Law and taught others to do it.
Mark 3.4 Then Jesus asked them, "Which is lawful on the Sabbath: to do good or to do evil, to save life or to kill?" But they remained silent.
In fact there is matter for a debate here, but there is no debate. The opposition is silenced. The point is that, so long as one is not doing anything 'bad' one is justified (arguing from a doubtful particular to a very general) in breaking the sabbath.
Mark 7.18 "Are you so dull?" he asked. "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him 'unclean'? 19 For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods "clean.") 20 He went on: "What comes out of a man is what makes him 'unclean.'
Putting 'unclean' in commas shows that the Bible editors know exactly what is going on here - the fallacy of equivocation. By changing the meaning of 'Unclean' from ritually impure as dictated by God, Jesus changes it to being what people say or think.
Thus the Gospels use rhetorical tricks to justify setting the Mosaic Law aside.
I'm afraid he did. He broke the sabbath, he rubbished the Kashrut laws. No way around it. He broke the Law and taught others to do it.
Mark 3.4 Then Jesus asked them, "Which is lawful on the Sabbath: to do good or to do evil, to save life or to kill?" But they remained silent.
In fact there is matter for a debate here, but there is no debate. The opposition is silenced. The point is that, so long as one is not doing anything 'bad' one is justified (arguing from a doubtful particular to a very general) in breaking the sabbath.
Mark 7.18 "Are you so dull?" he asked. "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him 'unclean'? 19 For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods "clean.") 20 He went on: "What comes out of a man is what makes him 'unclean.'
Putting 'unclean' in commas shows that the Bible editors know exactly what is going on here - the fallacy of equivocation. By changing the meaning of 'Unclean' from ritually impure as dictated by God, Jesus changes it to being what people say or think.
Thus the Gospels use rhetorical tricks to justify setting the Mosaic Law aside.
But Jesus said he fulfiled the Law. And God said he was well pleased with Jesus. And the Apostles said he had no sin.
I don't understand what you are saying. Are you saying that Jesus was a sinner? I think you might be revealing a long lost secret and changing the very course of world history!
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