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Old 04-27-2010, 06:18 AM
 
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If you read the article, it says they found compartments believed to house the animals. So we're talking more than a few pieces of wood if this were the case. And if this were true, where's the hi-quality video. Where are the pictures? Where are the coordinates to map the location? Why aren't scientists around the world jumping at this discovery?

Come on, it doesn't take the greatest critical thinking skills to debunk this stuff.

 
Old 04-27-2010, 06:23 AM
 
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I would be hard pressed to accept C-14 dates over Scripture. It is not a question of hypocrisy, it's more of a question of who you can believe.

Ahh yes, who to believe? Proven science with hard evidence and reality backing it up, or the scribbled ramblings of bronze age ignorants. Hmm, tough choice.

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Old 04-27-2010, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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If you read the article, it says they found compartments believed to house the animals. So we're talking more than a few pieces of wood if this were the case. And if this were true, where's the hi-quality video. Where are the pictures? Where are the coordinates to map the location? Why aren't scientists around the world jumping at this discovery?

Come on, it doesn't take the greatest critical thinking skills to debunk this stuff.
Well you see jbird...what happens is this. Every time these 'expeditions' come upon this Ark they (conveniently) forget their cameras, or (conveniently) can't get close enough to get a decent, in focus picture or supply GPS co-ordinates. As you say, why isn't the place crawling with press, TV, scientists? Well the answer (as we well know) is that there 'aint nothing there to see!!
 
Old 04-27-2010, 06:28 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Ahh yes, who to believe? Proven science with hard evidence and reality backing it up, or the sribbled ramblings of bronze age ignorants. Hmm, tough choice.
Bit of a difficult one eh?
 
Old 04-27-2010, 07:25 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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CHINESE and Turkish evangelical explorers believe they may have found Noah's Ark - 4000m up a mountain in Turkey.

The team said it had recovered wooden specimens from a structure on Mount Ararat in eastern Turkey that carbon dating proved was 4800 years old, around the same time the ark is said to have been afloat.

'99.9pc certainty' of Noah's Ark discovery on Mount Ararat | News.com.au
Tsk tsk John. First you post obvious anti-atheist satire as "news" and now you post frankly laughable pro-christian propaganda as legitimate news. Better watch out or you may get exposed as having a biased agenda.
 
Old 04-27-2010, 07:28 AM
 
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Ahh yes, who to believe? Proven science with hard evidence and reality backing it up, or the scribbled ramblings of bronze age ignorants. Hmm, tough choice.
Yes, who to believe? The scribbled ramblings of social rejects wearing labcoats, with certificates to show that they could memorise what lecturers dictated to them in their youth, saying whatever is necessary to secure continued funding of their university posts ... or a story by bronze age people about the bronze age which contains details that appear to advance no obvious moral purpose or vested interest?
 
Old 04-27-2010, 08:19 AM
 
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Yes, who to believe? The scribbled ramblings of social rejects wearing labcoats, with certificates to show that they could memorise what lecturers dictated to them in their youth, saying whatever is necessary to secure continued funding of their university posts ... or a story by bronze age people about the bronze age which contains details that appear to advance no obvious moral purpose or vested interest?

Really?!? Learned young scientists haven't advanced human knowledge, technology and medicine at all over the past several thousand years? Young scientists don't apply what they learn to hypothesize and create and test new theories? The authors of the bible had no agenda? Bizarro world is fun.
 
Old 04-27-2010, 08:48 AM
 
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Really?!? Learned young scientists haven't advanced human knowledge, technology and medicine at all over the past several thousand years? Young scientists don't apply what they learn to hypothesize and create and test new theories? The authors of the bible had no agenda? Bizarro world is fun.
When did I say that learned young scientists haven't advanced human knowledge, technology and medicine over the past several thousand years? When did I say that the authors of the bible had no agenda? You must be living in a world of your own dreams.

I like your enthusiasm for 'young scientists' though. They are clearly more dynamic and with-it than old scientists, who obviously have nothing important to say in your even more bizarro world.
 
Old 04-27-2010, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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CHINESE and Turkish evangelical explorers believe they may have found Noah's Ark - 4000m up a mountain in Turkey.
Hmm..."evangelical explorers." Is this a new branch of the discipline? And what makes me think that someone calling him- or herself an "evangelical explorer" is going to be--how shall I say--biased in favor of a certain viewpoint as to the correctness of their "discovery?"
 
Old 04-27-2010, 10:45 AM
 
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Default Google Earth?

First "Google Earth" doesn't have a clear zoom-able satellite image for Mount Ararat.

Now, there is a cloud hiding Mount Ararat from view on Google Earth.

Hmmm....is the The Order trying to hide something from us?
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