What Will Be The Fate Of Those Who Are Mentally Handicapped Or Comatose?

[Astron1000]

Originally Posted by MysticPhD

I love all my brothers and sisters and do not break them into groups by any criteria.

But yes, you do, friend. By simply stating your disdain for those "pre-christians" you have already separated the world into at least two groups.

And you hate one, yet love the other. You indeed sit in judgment.

Originally Posted by MysticPhD

I do evaluate all beliefs and attitudes against that of Christ's . . . which is the purest and truest spirituality that exists, IMO.

Again, you presume to sit on the throne of Christ and act as Judge and arbiter of what is "right and wrong." You are setting yourself up as God Himself.

To me, that is an act of supreme arrogance. A charge that I am not alone in inflicting. It has been said many times before by those on these message boards.

Here is the proof, in your own words:

"Those who believe and act like Man-the-Animal are spiritually undeveloped. I personally believe that IF anyone truly believes that God has the nature attributed to Jehovah in the OT . . . that their spirituality is very primitive and undeveloped. To grasp the full impact of this, it is necessary for you to try to visualize the true consciousness of Man-the-animal at the time of Christ. This can be very difficult for most civilized twentieth century human beings. Attitudinally they were significantly more barbarous consciousnesses. They cannot be considered even remotely comparable to most human beings today . . . although there are still pockets of them (some significant)."

What are you saying here? That we've evolved as better creatures than those who lived 2,000 years ago?

Maybe we have.

But when you consider that humans killed about 100 million of their own kind in the 20th Century alone, that claim is dubious.

Originally Posted by MysticPhD

The majority of human beings today cannot possibly understand the consciousness of man-the-animal. We are not equipped to relate to someone who:

1.) would go out of his way to inflict pain and injury on a crippled or deformed fellow being without any awareness that there was anything wrong with such behavior;

2.) would believe that cripples should be treated badly because one should not be kinder than the God who made them crippled;

3.) would not feel remorse at having been utterly ruthless to helpless and defenseless victims and would actually admire any individuals who are like them;

4.) would not have the ability to sympathize with another human being; and

5.) would not feel shock or horror at the wholesale slaughter of babies.

Just to state a few of the attitudes.The descriptive spiritual and historic record is replete with examples.

I stand by my previous assertion.

100 million dead by the hands of their brothers does not bode well for the future of the race.

[MysticPhD]

Originally Posted by Astron1000

But yes, you do, friend. By simply stating your disdain for those "pre-christians" you have already separated the world into at least two groups.

And you hate one, yet love the other. You indeed sit in judgment.

You are separating PEOPLE . . . I am separating beliefs and attitudes. I realize a lot of people have difficulty separating themselves from their beliefs and attitudes . . . but they are separate nonetheless. Beliefs and attitudes can be heinous, evil, loving, pure, etc.etc. all on their own . . . e.g., a belief in sexual molestation of children is heinous all on its own.

You are reading "hate" into it . . . I have none in my heart . . . and I judge no one. God does that. I judge beliefs and attitudes against the standard and unambiguous example of Christ.

Again, you presume to sit on the throne of Christ and act as Judge and arbiter of what is "right and wrong." You are setting yourself up as God Himself.

To me, that is an act of supreme arrogance. A charge that I am not alone in inflicting. It has been said many times before by those on these message boards.

We typically see the motivations of others based on what OUR motivations would be under similar circumstances. I judge no one . . . and the "mind of Christ" is my standard for determining what is right and wrong in "love of God and each other."

Here is the proof, in your own words:

"Those who believe and act like Man-the-Animal are spiritually undeveloped. I personally believe that IF anyone truly believes that God has the nature attributed to Jehovah in the OT . . . that their spirituality is very primitive and undeveloped. To grasp the full impact of this, it is necessary for you to try to visualize the true consciousness of Man-the-animal at the time of Christ. This can be very difficult for most civilized twentieth century human beings. Attitudinally they were significantly more barbarous consciousnesses. They cannot be considered even remotely comparable to most human beings today . . . although there are still pockets of them (some significant)."

What are you saying here? That we've evolved as better creatures than those who lived 2,000 years ago?

Maybe we have.

But when you consider that humans killed about 100 million of their own kind in the 20th Century alone, that claim is dubious.

Attitudinally we have "come a long way, Baby!" Our technology has increased our destructive potential enormously. Our spirituality has lagged primarily because of the retention of the ignorant primitive beliefs about God held by our ancestors. Power hungry religious leaders exploited that primitive ignorance and perpetuated it by praising ignorance as a sign of Faith. Governments and political ambitions coupled with our technology has simply increased the footprint of our destructiveness. But today's typical civilized human being isn't remotely as barbaric as our ancestors were. There are exceptions . . . typically within fundamentalist religions.