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Old 06-14-2007, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Nashville, Tn
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In another blatant attempt to confuse, madden and divide the Religion forum into warring factions I have another unusual question to ask. What will happen to those individuals who are mentally handicapped and really don't have the ability to grasp concepts like religion and accepting Christ? I can't imagine that these unfortunate people would be sent to hell but if their final destination is to be heaven would they still be afflicted with the lack of normal mental capabilities or would they be given full self awareness for the first time in their existence? Also, what about a situation when someone has not been saved but then they're involved in an accident or something that causes them to be comatose for the rest of their lives? This person might possibly have become religious and accepted Christ at a later point in life but lost that opportunity due to their comatose condition. How would a just God deal with such a situation?
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Old 06-14-2007, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, MI
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I love it MG.

Regarding a handicapped person, I think it SHOULD be obvious to anyone with a heart and brain that God would be merciful to them, as they don't have the ability to make a rational decision. That's a general view. MY viewpoint is that Jesus died to save THE WORLD, and accomplished just that. (I'm a Universalist).

Regarding the comatose thing, I think this person would end up in "hell", but I disagree with the majority opinion on what hell is, so it doesn't seem unjust to me. They would be in for some correction before they eventually, like everyone in the world will do according to Scripture, bow and confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.

IMHO!!!!!
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Old 06-14-2007, 06:16 PM
 
Location: The #1 sunshine state, Arizona.
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Hey MontanaGuy, the next printing of "The Bible" will have an additional book with answers to all your unusual queries. This addendum to the NT,will be named, The Book of Loopholes. Look for it in books stores in fall 07.
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Old 06-14-2007, 06:16 PM
 
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The LDS believe that anyone who is not able to tell right from wrong will be automatically saved. That includes mentally handicapped people and small children.

As for someone who is comatose, I've never thought of it, but logic would say that they would be judged by how they lived until their coma, as that would be the de facto end of their probationary period -- mortal life.
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Old 06-14-2007, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Pikeville, Ky.
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IMO. People who are unable to comprehend the belief in God, are as babies and are not accountable. As for a person who was a real sicko before he went into a comotose? I don't know, because we don't know if a person has thoughts or what may go on in his brain when he is in this state. Perhaps the holy spirit is alive and well in him and is speaking to him..
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Old 06-14-2007, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Alexandria, VA
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I agree with you post one has to have the capacity to decide to be held culpable.
DUH!!
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Old 06-14-2007, 10:29 PM
 
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Now there's a catholic word for ya ....I guess some things still linger, like it or not....
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Old 06-15-2007, 03:55 AM
 
Location: Between Here and There
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In another blatant attempt to confuse, madden and divide the Religion forum into warring factions I have another unusual question to ask. What will happen to those individuals who are mentally handicapped and really don't have the ability to grasp concepts like religion and accepting Christ? I can't imagine that these unfortunate people would be sent to hell but if their final destination is to be heaven would they still be afflicted with the lack of normal mental capabilities or would they be given full self awareness for the first time in their existence? Also, what about a situation when someone has not been saved but then they're involved in an accident or something that causes them to be comatose for the rest of their lives? This person might possibly have become religious and accepted Christ at a later point in life but lost that opportunity due to their comatose condition. How would a just God deal with such a situation?
I'm pretty sure it's pretty well excepted that those that are cognitively unable to understand and accept Jesus are automatically saved through God's grace. I don't remember if this is in Romans or Revelations...but it's in one of them.

But I have to admit the comatose guy has thrown me for a loop...good one MG! I guess it would depend on what kind of person he was before the accident. Also I guess the assumption that God is all knowing and would have known the path this person's life would have taken would have to come into play...wouldn't He have known this person one day would be saved and therefore accept that as good enough? Since I believe all good people go to heaven, if he was a good person alive before the coma I would think God would judge him so and he would make it into heaven.
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Old 06-15-2007, 06:15 AM
 
Location: a nation with hope
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[quote=irishmom;889411] Since I believe all good people go to heaven

All good people go to heaven?

What is "good" ?

There is none that is good, but God.
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Old 06-15-2007, 10:52 AM
 
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The LDS believe that anyone who is not able to tell right from wrong will be automatically saved. That includes mentally handicapped people and small children.

As for someone who is comatose, I've never thought of it, but logic would say that they would be judged by how they lived until their coma, as that would be the de facto end of their probationary period -- mortal life.

I cant believe I am doing this, but. . . what about people who are sociopsychotic and criminally insane? People like Dahlmer, Bundy, and Gacie didnt have the ability to tell right from wrong and it was due to a psychological problem. Do the criminaly insane get included or are they sent to hell? If their mind is not capable of discerning right from wrong but they have committed absolutely horrible crimes against God, where do they fit in.

As for people who are mentally handicap, I look at them as innocent, and while I do not know what God's thoughts are I believe they would not be judged accordingly.
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