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Old 07-08-2012, 11:08 PM
 
Location: North County San Diego, Ca
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Just read another article about the senseless killing of "Butterscotch", the bear that locals lovingly named due to the color of her fur. She was a part of the community and somewhat of a mascot for the area. I would love to hear what others have to say about coexisting peacefully in the mountains (home to bears and other wildlife, by the way)...... What is beyond me is why anyone chooses to live in a place that is full of beautiful wildlife, yet at the first encounter wants the poor animal trapped and/or killed.....don't move to the mountains if you feel this way! I'm sorry but for an animal to be shot because it doesn't understand the "three strikes rule" (last I knew animals can't read) and due to the fact that it's generally in the area because some uninformed resident/tourist/business doesn't dispose of garbage properly,leaves windows or doors open or leaves out food seems totally unfair. What do you feel is the best way to stop this before eventually there are no more animals left in the area?
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Old 07-09-2012, 11:24 PM
 
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its not the locals that are asking to have the bears killed its the athorities who don't even live here who want to and are killing them. This year alone they gave out hunting lic. to kill 20 bear. I don't understand why we need to kill a bear as a sport. All I can say is Karma can be good and bad and who knows maybe one of those smart bears will kill one of them for no reason like they are doing to the bears. JUST SAYIN
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Old 07-13-2012, 12:31 PM
 
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Just read another article about the senseless killing of "Butterscotch", the bear that locals lovingly named due to the color of her fur. She was a part of the community and somewhat of a mascot for the area. I would love to hear what others have to say about coexisting peacefully in the mountains (home to bears and other wildlife, by the way)...... What is beyond me is why anyone chooses to live in a place that is full of beautiful wildlife, yet at the first encounter wants the poor animal trapped and/or killed.....don't move to the mountains if you feel this way! I'm sorry but for an animal to be shot because it doesn't understand the "three strikes rule" (last I knew animals can't read) and due to the fact that it's generally in the area because some uninformed resident/tourist/business doesn't dispose of garbage properly,leaves windows or doors open or leaves out food seems totally unfair. What do you feel is the best way to stop this before eventually there are no more animals left in the area?
I AGREE WITH YOU!
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Old 07-16-2012, 07:38 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Just read another article about the senseless killing of "Butterscotch", the bear that locals lovingly named due to the color of her fur. She was a part of the community and somewhat of a mascot for the area. I would love to hear what others have to say about coexisting peacefully in the mountains (home to bears and other wildlife, by the way)...... What is beyond me is why anyone chooses to live in a place that is full of beautiful wildlife, yet at the first encounter wants the poor animal trapped and/or killed.....don't move to the mountains if you feel this way! I'm sorry but for an animal to be shot because it doesn't understand the "three strikes rule" (last I knew animals can't read) and due to the fact that it's generally in the area because some uninformed resident/tourist/business doesn't dispose of garbage properly,leaves windows or doors open or leaves out food seems totally unfair. What do you feel is the best way to stop this before eventually there are no more animals left in the area?
I agree with you as well

I always thought the TRPA was in control of everything...where are they now when the wildlife needs them and not just having the clarity of the lake be preserved...

I worked at The Chart House off Kingsbury Grade for 5 years (not to mention frequeting it as I grew up), we always saw the bears getting in to the trash bins behind the restaurant. Nobody freaked out at the sight of them or got a gun...we just left them alone and stayed away....

Not to mention the many years at Lakeland Village near Ski Run Marina, when we had to follow specific instructions in keeping our trash in the proper enclosed space.

Sounds like the powers that be are too worried about PR these days, than protecting and leaving alone the wildlife like THEY USE TO!
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Old 07-29-2012, 02:30 AM
 
Location: In a state of mind
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I pretty much agree with the rest. I think there are bears who need relocation from time to time. And look, the fact is the mountains are their habitat, they didn't invite us and they don't have the means to understand why we are there, all they know is we bring tasty stuff to eat. Is someone going to occasionally get mauled, yes. That's life in the mountains.

You are in bear country I suggest carrying bear spray and maybe (and I do say maybe) a defensive sidearm in certain extreme cases, and only if one is well trained in its use. But I can't imagine a need to ever shoot a bear unless it is charging at you or someone else and it's you or it, or it is breaking into your house to get food and you have no way to exit and call someone with a dart gun.

In 99.9% of bear encounters or attacks there is a non-lethal way to resolve the matter.

I think perhaps some bears need to be relocated hundreds of miles, not just the 25 or so that is usual.
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