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Old 09-30-2014, 04:15 AM
 
Location: Cold Springs, NV
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Sorry, I just don't buy into the negative. When you consider that the entire roof of the Tesla building is PV panels, and if nothing is produced then no energy is used, and no tax credits are given. My dad taught me one thing that has served me well. If one searches for negative they will surely find it. Why waste life's precious time dwelling in the negative?
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Old 09-30-2014, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Cold Springs, NV
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Tesla coming to Reno will spur other business also.

Tesla Expected to Attract Other Business to Truckee Meadows - KTVN Channel 2 - Reno Tahoe News Weather, Video -
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Old 10-16-2014, 10:06 AM
 
Location: ID
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Not to be negative Mrwillys but it seems these "jobs" are 5 times in numbers of what they really will be. Really that many jobs (6500) for a battery plant? I think we have government forcasters on the loose. Undoubtedly the money that stays here will bump housing prices and raise prices all around and there is no such thing as a "clean" battery plant so they build it out in a low population area with low reg. Added truck traffic is a for sure. They should be using rail.
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Old 10-16-2014, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Reno
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Not to be negative Mrwillys but it seems these "jobs" are 5 times in numbers of what they really will be. Really that many jobs (6500) for a battery plant? I think we have government forcasters on the loose. Undoubtedly the money that stays here will bump housing prices and raise prices all around and there is no such thing as a "clean" battery plant so they build it out in a low population area with low reg. Added truck traffic is a for sure. They should be using rail.
As is typical with these things, they extrapolate from extrapolations. They assume that 10 jobs at the factory will create another 100 in retail (for example), just piling guesses upon guesses until the numbers buy enough support from people that they think they can get away with it.

All of this without any regard to downsides, subtraction never enters into these equations.
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Old 10-16-2014, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Pahrump, NV
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whether it's 10 jobs, 100 jobs, or 1000 jobs, it's still nice to see good paying jobs come to town
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Old 11-01-2014, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Volcano
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Here's a recent update on some of the projections

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Tesla Motor’s forthcoming battery factory in northern Nevada is expected to create over 20,000 jobs—sparking an unprecedented boost in the state’s population, making a dent in the 7.7 percent unemployment rate and helping the struggling housing market.

The number of new jobs is significant because Nevada has 95,000 unemployed. The four counties nearest to the planned Tesla “gigafactory” in northern Nevada in the Tahoe-Reno Industrial Center – where most of the jobs are expected --have a total of 18,296 unemployed, according to Nevada state demographer Jeff Hardcastle of the University of Nevada, Reno.
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The Nevada Governor’s Office of Economic Development (GOED) said the Tesla factory will create up to 6,500 new on-site jobs with an average wage in excess of $25 per hour. Tesla said it expects to employ 6,500 workers by the eighth year the factory is open. The GOED forecast 16,000 indirect jobs will also be created-- generating an economic impact of nearly $40 billion over 20 years. Sixteen percent of the jobs are expected to be in retail trade; 13 percent in wholesale trade; 12 percent in construction and administrative and support services. Professional, scientific, and technical services at 11 percent; food services at 8 percent and Health Care at 8 percent.

Hardcastle also forecast that by 2018, the “Tesla bump” will increase the state’s population by about 4,000 people–with a total increase of 35,000 in the next two decades, an increase of about 1.3 percent of the state population of 2.8 million.The Teslafactory also is expected to help the Nevada housing market, where one in 520 homes is in foreclosure—one of the worst rates in America.Hardcastle said that over the next two decades, the state expects to pick up 28,000 immigrants looking for housing—meaning some 10,500 new households.
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Hardcastle also said Washoe County, near the factory, will likely see the greatest spike in home purchases and rentals. Some 17,000 units went vacant there between 2000 and 2010. “You’d expect to see a substantial number of those vacant units to be absorbed in addition to potential to new construction,” Hardcastle said . The influx of residents also is expected to generate an increase in sales and property tax revenue and could also create an indirect improvement in services such as health care, according to Hardcastle.

The factory is expected to create enough lithium-ion battery packs for 500,000 electric cars by 2020. Hardcastle said the Tesla factory will create and secure a new “manufacturing base” in northwestern Nevada that has the potential for even more spinoff sectors. “It may help reinforce some smaller energy and battery firms here,” Hardcastle said.

New Tesla factory expected to boost Nevada jobs, population | Fox News
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Old 11-01-2014, 11:43 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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It's great that they are in Northern Nevada, that is undeniable. What bothers me is that everyone who gets a bill from NV Energy will be paying more to make up for the discount on electricity that is being given to Tesla, that is just disgusting.
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Old 11-02-2014, 09:04 AM
 
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It's great that they are in Northern Nevada, that is undeniable. What bothers me is that everyone who gets a bill from NV Energy will be paying more to make up for the discount on electricity that is being given to Tesla, that is just disgusting.
The increase in electric costs was estimated at $1.52 per household (RGJ 9/10/2014). When I think of all the other taxes that the government sucks out of our pockets, this seems fairly trivial by comparison, especially if it was considered necessary to allow NV to beat the other states in the bidding war for Tesla's location.

All in all, a great win for NV.
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Old 11-02-2014, 04:45 PM
 
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The increase in electric costs was estimated at $1.52 per household (RGJ 9/10/2014).
I meant to add "per year"; in other words, an increase of $1.52 per household per year.
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Old 12-03-2014, 11:26 AM
 
Location: the real CA.
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with all the toxic run off (yes there will be lots of it no mater what is done) what will happen to the local ground water supply's? or is this a topic that is not to be talked about?
if not for the job i have now..and snow i would move there yesterday. not for a motor car company but for a better life. over the restricted Ca deal.


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