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Old 07-11-2011, 12:24 PM
 
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Just received applications from tenants applying for a non-smoking property who claim to not smoke on their applications.
One is clearly smoking in several facebook photos and even mentions that he smokes too many cigarettes.
How can I handle this without saying that I was checking his facebook?
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Old 07-11-2011, 12:27 PM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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Just received applications from tenants applying for a non-smoking property who claim to not smoke on their applications.
One is clearly smoking in several facebook photos and even mentions that he smokes too many cigarettes.
How can I handle this without saying that I was checking his facebook?
Last I checked, there is no law against using Facebook as a tool to determine if someone is lying.

Do you really even have to give them an explanation? Can't you just say that someone else got the apartment(s)? I think it would be much better NOT to give them a reason. They can't sue you if you don't give them a reason.

"But why didn't we get it"?

"That is the decision, thank you for applying"

*click*

20yrsinBranson
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Old 07-11-2011, 12:27 PM
 
Location: southwest TN
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Why the worry about saying you checked his FB? Just say, I saw your FB page and it's clear you tried to deceive me. You lied on your application.

If you don't want a liar - or a smoker - don't BE a liar. Tell it like it is. People know that FB is like seeing them in person on a street.

Are you telling me you couldn't smell that he is a smoker? Have a cold? severe allergies?
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Old 07-11-2011, 12:30 PM
 
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Maybe he quit recently? Because he smoked too much?
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Old 07-11-2011, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
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I would not mention Facebook. I would however (as a non-smoker) readily detect cigarette smoke on their clothes and breath, in which case I would not rent to them. I live in Alaska. Many prospective tenants have stated: "Yeah, I smoke, but only on the porch." Scenario: It's -15 degrees at 2 am and the wind is blowing. These folks are going to spend 10 minutes dressing up like Nanook of the North to stand in sub-zero weather to suck on a butt? Get real; that's not happening. As an ex-smoker, I find cigarette smoke repugnant; it gets in everything fabric and is very difficult to remove.
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Old 07-11-2011, 01:06 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
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Why don't these people have their pages private?
Nobody can see my page unless they are my friend. I don't need people staring at my pictures and thinking that I'm lying on an application
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Old 07-11-2011, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Martinsville, NJ
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Just received applications from tenants applying for a non-smoking property who claim to not smoke on their applications.
One is clearly smoking in several facebook photos and even mentions that he smokes too many cigarettes.
How can I handle this without saying that I was checking his facebook?
Why do you care if he is smoking somewhere else? You can't regulate what he does when he is not in the property he rents from you. All you need be concerned with is that he not smoke in tht property, if that is a condition in his lease.
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Old 07-11-2011, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Why do you care if he is smoking somewhere else? You can't regulate what he does when he is not in the property he rents from you. All you need be concerned with is that he not smoke in tht property, if that is a condition in his lease.
Exactly.
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Old 07-11-2011, 03:31 PM
 
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Why do you care if he is smoking somewhere else? You can't regulate what he does when he is not in the property he rents from you. All you need be concerned with is that he not smoke in tht property, if that is a condition in his lease.
I think I would personally be more worried about the attempt to lie - if he lies about being a non-smoker when he was/is, what else would he lie about?
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Old 07-11-2011, 03:41 PM
 
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1. You can use information found on FB if you want so long as it's not violating any laws.
2. Don;t assume what you see and read is current information.
3. If they quit smopking, they can claim they are non smokers because they are.
4. Use what you found to guide you but shouldn;t be the sole determination because you can be wrong.
5. Why not just ask the person straight up and tell them what you found and if you want to play it safe, have the lease modifed to request a signature as acknowledgment on the non-smoking policy.
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