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Old 10-30-2016, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Minnesota
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I dont agree with esa for most folks tbh.. I understand a Vet needing one yes but usually its a silly old lady who WANTS a pet and will cheat the system to get her way. very few men seem to do this ( past experiences and obervations at work here ) I understand the cute cuddley little foofoo dog is fun to have but honestly its not a need but because some folks have a real NEED like a veteran or a austic person or some one truly disabled it has become a right for all and that frankly makes me mad. a want and a need are two diffrent things and to be forced to allow the want because there is a need really chapps my behind
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Old 10-30-2016, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Hookerville, formerly in Tweakerville
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Here's another example of "service animals."

1. I recently did a focus group at a law firm in downtown San Diego. There are 10 attendees, one of which was an elderly woman who brought her wheeled fabric shopping bag and dog with her. The dog wasn't a service dog, but he did curl up under the table during the discussion. During the break, she was give him little treats of Nacho Doritos. None of the attorneys said a word about the dog.

2. Last night I worked at a large outdoor Halloween party (Monster Bash) in downtown San Diego. A young couple came in with a small dog with a dress on, and it was in a baby carriage. We told them that dogs weren't allowed in the venue, and were told that it was a service dog, so we had to let it in.

I disagree in both cases.
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Old 10-30-2016, 02:22 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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1. Rich Elderly lady LOL
2. SD Dressed for nite out.
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Old 10-30-2016, 05:44 PM
 
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Here's another example of "service animals."
The first one has nothing to do with Service Animals so is meaningless.

The second one means nothing as well since you didn't tell us what happened based on your qualification questions. I'm sure you know that just because a person says the animal is a Service Animal doesn't mean you have to accept it unchallenged. If you failed to challenge their claim, that's why people get away with the scam.
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Old 10-30-2016, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Hookerville, formerly in Tweakerville
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When I'm at work, if someone says that their dog is a service dog, we have to accept that, it can't be challenged unless the branch manager gives instructions to do so. So, there's no choice in the matter unless a supervisor wants to get involved with it.

As to the attorney's office, I was going to ask about it, but it was 5:00, and everyone was leaving.
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Old 10-30-2016, 09:35 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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The first one has nothing to do with Service Animals so is meaningless.

The second one means nothing as well since you didn't tell us what happened based on your qualification questions. I'm sure you know that just because a person says the animal is a Service Animal doesn't mean you have to accept it unchallenged. If you failed to challenge their claim, that's why people get away with the scam.
Challange them how? Remember, you get two specific questions only:
(1) Is the dog a service animal required because of a disability?
(2) What work or task has the dog been trained to perform?

(1) Why, yes, he is!
(2) He warns me if I am going to have a seizure (What I don't say out loud: A job he has done stunningly well since he's never warned me and I've never had one. He's batting 100% so far.)

Do you really think a person who stoops to pretending they have a service animal will have qualms about lying?
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Old 10-30-2016, 11:38 PM
 
Location: Hookerville, formerly in Tweakerville
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Challange them how? Remember, you get two specific questions only:
(1) Is the dog a service animal required because of a disability?
(2) What work or task has the dog been trained to perform?

(1) Why, yes, he is!
(2) He warns me if I am going to have a seizure (What I don't say out loud: A job he has done stunningly well since he's never warned me and I've never had one. He's batting 100% so far.)

Do you really think a person who stoops to pretending they have a service animal will have qualms about lying?
With my job, they just let them in. If someone wants to say something, someone higher up than me would have to do it.
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Old 10-31-2016, 02:37 PM
 
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Challange them how? Remember, you get two specific questions only:
(1) Is the dog a service animal required because of a disability?
(2) What work or task has the dog been trained to perform?

(1) Why, yes, he is!
(2) He warns me if I am going to have a seizure (What I don't say out loud: A job he has done stunningly well since he's never warned me and I've never had one. He's batting 100% so far.)

Do you really think a person who stoops to pretending they have a service animal will have qualms about lying?
Of course those sleazy rats will lie about the service animal but at least the property took some affirmative steps and not just whine and complain yet did absolutely nothing. Also, as an FYI, those two qualification questions only come into play After the person has informed you it's a service animal, until they do, you are free to surreptitiously use qualifying tactics. Even after qualification, that service animal must adhere to a set of accepted rules and if the owner or animal doesn't comply, they can be denied access, Legally!

Of course an Assistance Animal under FHA are always qualified before being authorized, so landlords really have no excuse.
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