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Old 05-16-2017, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Kansas City North
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Regarding appliances' life expectancies: In 1950 my parents bought a Bendix dryer (and you thought all they made were brakes and components for nuclear bombs). Then the three kids came along, along with all the diapers and other laundry. Mid 1970s, Dad admits it's "sometimes a little hard to find parts." (He was very handy, don't ever remember having a professional repairman except for the TVs). Finally in the late 1970s he remarries after my mom died, and new wife insists on getting new wsher and dryer. If not for that, the thing would probably still be around.

They don't build 'em like they used to.
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Old 05-17-2017, 06:29 AM
 
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I haven't seen the right answer yet. So, here is my 2 cents. In this business, there is a thing called over-improving. We have the high-end market, mid range and the lower end. If the unit is in a slum, there is no point to put new appliances and luxury items. What we do is just meeting the building codes and make sure we follow the laws. Higher end and mid range require better accommodations due to competition and the higher rent amount.

Your unit is stuck with 30 yrs old appliances because the landlord knows he/she can get away with it and that's what your local market calls for. People don't want to hear this but it's the sad truth.
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Old 05-17-2017, 09:15 AM
 
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I haven't seen the right answer yet. So, here is my 2 cents. In this business, there is a thing called over-improving. We have the high-end market, mid range and the lower end. If the unit is in a slum, there is no point to put new appliances and luxury items. What we do is just meeting the building codes and make sure we follow the laws. Higher end and mid range require better accommodations due to competition and the higher rent amount.

Your unit is stuck with 30 yrs old appliances because the landlord knows he/she can get away with it and that's what your local market calls for. People don't want to hear this but it's the sad truth.
My unit is not a slum or in a slum area just the landlord is a "slum lord" per say.

I know how the business works most of it's common sense.
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Old 05-17-2017, 09:36 AM
 
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I haven't seen the right answer yet. So, here is my 2 cents. In this business, there is a thing called over-improving. We have the high-end market, mid range and the lower end. If the unit is in a slum, there is no point to put new appliances and luxury items. What we do is just meeting the building codes and make sure we follow the laws. Higher end and mid range require better accommodations due to competition and the higher rent amount.

Your unit is stuck with 30 yrs old appliances because the landlord knows he/she can get away with it and that's what your local market calls for. People don't want to hear this but it's the sad truth.
While I understand what you're saying and you're right there will always be a slumlord. Makes no difference how many good LL and property managers are out there there will always be some bad ones.
Regardless of where the unit is at in the rental quality level and the quality of the LL, legally there needs to be a working unit no matter what age it is. Not having a working whatever is a violation of the lease agreement (if the lease states that LL must supply a working appliance)
A bad LL won't care. As in this case. A good LL will repair or replace to keep up the standards they find acceptable.
I won't contract a PMC because I want to meet and connect with my tenants. I like to know what is wrong and I want to know who goes in and does repairs. The people I hire I worked with and know the quality of the work.
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Old 05-17-2017, 09:46 PM
 
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I haven't seen the right answer yet. So, here is my 2 cents. In this business, there is a thing called over-improving. We have the high-end market, mid range and the lower end. If the unit is in a slum, there is no point to put new appliances and luxury items. What we do is just meeting the building codes and make sure we follow the laws. Higher end and mid range require better accommodations due to competition and the higher rent amount.

Your unit is stuck with 30 yrs old appliances because the landlord knows he/she can get away with it and that's what your local market calls for. People don't want to hear this but it's the sad truth.

Q: Why do landlords equip their rentals with 30 year old appliances?

A: Because They Can
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Old 05-17-2017, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ area
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Q: Why do landlords equip their rentals with 30 year old appliances?

A: Because They Can
Q: Why do tenants rent places with 30 year old appliances?

A: Because they either can't afford anything better or don't want to pay for it.
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Old 05-18-2017, 12:56 AM
 
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Q: Why do tenants rent places with 30 year old appliances?

A: Because they either can't afford anything better or don't want to pay for it.

Yes, as a poor renter, I am keenly aware that many renters have severe financial constraints; that is why - as I have said previously - almost ANY non-isolated property can be profitably rented out; even properties that nobody is willing to owner-occupy.
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Old 05-18-2017, 09:38 AM
 
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Q: Why do landlords equip their rentals with 30 year old appliances?

A: Because They Can
Well actually someone spoke of refrigerator cleanings that cost hundreds of dollars .... maybe landlords don't want to pay for expensive appliances only to see them damaged.
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Old 05-18-2017, 12:08 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Q: Why do landlords equip their rentals with 30 year old appliances?

A: Because They Can
Because they still work. For our properties our lease states that while there are appliances in there that they are welcome to use we do not furnish appliances, the only thing we will obligate ourselves to do with the appliances is remove them at the tenants request. We do tell them to call if there is an issue because if it's simple we may be able to fix it. The reality is if it isn't fixable we offer to "lend" them another, and yes, they are generally used. We do it this way because it encourages tenants to take better care of them and prevents a tenant from deciding they are going to complain frequently about the appliance or outright sabotage them to get a new one. If it is clear the appliance is not being taken care of when we look at it to fix it, we don't offer to "lend" them a new one. We have only had to do this with one tenant in over 30 years. This system has worked well for us.
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Old 05-18-2017, 12:15 PM
 
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Well actually someone spoke of refrigerator cleanings that cost hundreds of dollars .... maybe landlords don't want to pay for expensive appliances only to see them damaged.
I would love to see pics of what kind of dirty took hundreds of dollars to clean looks like
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