Noise!! Why Can't Renters Respect Other Renters??? (company, sign, buy)
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Then I suggest you get your door fixed and stop being disrespectful to your neighbors - simple solution
There is a lot of lack of respect in apt buildings...no matter how much you ask them to tone it down some it continues anyway..people do not care nor can they be bothered with it. Apts blow its as simple as that, and alot of it has to do with the apt managers and the rules ....yes it is understood that children will be noisey...but...the parents need to teach them not to be outrageous with the noise level...its a matter of respect for other people.
Ah, but I don't LIVE in an apartment, so it doesn't matter.
Noise induction and sleep deprivations are time old torture techniques. Can make one insane or edgy to say the least. Hey LDL you are going to love that house now in ways you cant even imagine. That is probably the ONLY good thing about a situation like this.
Then I suggest you get your door fixed and stop being disrespectful to your neighbors - simple solution
There is a lot of lack of respect in apt buildings...no matter how much you ask them to tone it down some it continues anyway..people do not care nor can they be bothered with it. Apts blow its as simple as that, and alot of it has to do with the apt managers and the rules ....yes it is understood that children will be noisey...but...the parents need to teach them not to be outrageous with the noise level...its a matter of respect for other people.
Well, apparently, for something "cosmetic" like a sticking door, it's not my responsibility to fix it, but the maintenance crew at the apartment complex. I wouldn't live any place where they'd come around and complain about the improvements I've made to make it livable for me. The door not wanting to shut well doesn't affect the "livability" of the place.
Thank you!
- I came here looking for advice and was heartened by all the posts from people who still appreciate common courteousy. Not much to be done about the obnoxious pigwoman who lives in apt. beneath me though.
She is disliked by many in this complex for a variety of reasons (uses area in front of not her own, but others' apts as storage for her propane grill, extra indoor furniture, plastic storage chest and other things nobody is supposed to have in yard, parks almost in middle of narrow driveway leading to parking lot because too lazy to walk another 10 feet & leaves car there hours at a time, etc. etc.). My particular gripe is has to do with the excessive noise coming out of her place because of its direct effect on me.
You know the drill- daily running & jumping from daughter (who is 15!), daily thuds and pounding (why?), slamming every door to everything every time, daily yelling, disregard for carpet ordinance, and a tv which comes on as soon as the daughter gets home from school, LOUD, and stays that way 'til 1:00 a.m if I'm lucky but just as often until they wake up the next morning.
Tried the usual methods. First I approached her directly, politely offered that she probably was unaware of how much the noise carries, etc. This took care of the problem for one day. Further attempts to ask her nicely to just "keep me in mind" were met with the typical defensive bellowing about how they're just trying to live their life, blah blah blah. Exaggerations that I expect them to be deathly silent, all that crap. I even told her she was welcome to come upstairs and listen to the tv noise herself to see what I was talking about and she angrily refused.
After much reservation one night at 3:00a.m I called the cops. I apologetically explained to the dispatcher that the noise was only affecting me inside my apt. He agreed this was worthy of complaint but not so the police who showed up but never got out of the patrol car. I guess they couldn't hear what I was hearing from across the street inside their car.
Management is useless.
So I basically never use my own living room, reading is out of the question, and I have to leave the premises to get any peace & quiet. I've come to understand over the years that apartment (communal) living means having to expect some discomfort/inconvenience due to noise from neighbors. But what about the other side of the coin- it also means expecting the discomfort/inconvience of curtailing some of your own behaviour out of consideration for others.
By nature I'm a night person who likes loud music and drunk parties and housecleaning late at night but my neighbors wouldn't know that about me because I have more respect for those around me than that swine downstairs.
My advice is if you're a night person and they're downstairs from you, take up a new hobby that you can participate in at the wee hours of the morning that won't bother neighbors on either side of you. Clog dancing or billiard ball dropping might be a good start.
My advice is if you're a night person and they're downstairs from you, take up a new hobby that you can participate in at the wee hours of the morning that won't bother neighbors on either side of you. Clog dancing or billiard ball dropping might be a good start.
Yep. For a while there I communicated my need to get some sleep before work in the morning by stomping on floor, jumping up & down, dropping dumbells. (this phase came after the asking nicely approach of course). Noise doesn't bother her. Finally got some results when I started lifting up one end of my sleeper sofa & letting it drop. BAM!!!!!! (she sleeps directly below it in her living room).
The results are always short-lived though, and in her annoying fake way she told me to just call her on the phone whenever the tv is too loud. As if a blaring tv that is a nuisance one night won't be a problem at the same volume level the next night. I assume she did that on purpose thinking that it would be too much of a hassle for me to call her every day, and she's right. Why should I have to talk to this woman every night?! I do call from time to time if it's still going after 1:00a.m and I know it annoys her. Usually she'll defiantly turn it down one notch and then lower it like 20 minutes later to show me who's in charge.
This torment has been going on for a couple of years now & I'm concentrating on trying to make enough money to move to a better situation, I think that's all I can do. It's a shame, she & her kid are the only really intolerable thing about this apt that I worked so hard on choosing and making into a nice home. I had even held out for a top floor apt in anticipation of excessive noise problems. There is no way I can afford to move anytime soon.
The other reason that I see moving as the only solution is that while phone calls or sleeping pills can help me get to sleep late at night, there is no help for the noise problem at other times of day when I'd actually prefer it. I'm out working a traditional 9 to 5 type schedule right now. This means that the early evening hours when I want to unwind after work with a book or "conversation level" tv are unbearable because of the intrusive level of noise coming from those people. This is where you can't rely on "quiet hours" rules and hope that your neighbors exercise basic consideration. That sow is of course oblivious to the needs of anyone around her.
And what gets me is that they're not hard of hearing, so I AM NOT TAKING ANYTHING AWAY FROM THEM by asking them to lower the volume to a non-blaring level. Oh well. Until the glorious day that one of us leaves I'll just have get in my little feel-good acts of revenge here and there- That sofa drop felt nice! And so did the big New Year's Eve party I had over her head while she sat home alone. Thanks Hesster for your input!
Well, this Thread was started by me, LoveBoating, when we lived in that very noisey building in NC. From our bedroom, we could hear the couple living behind us having sex at two in the morning........we could hear every step the guy living above us made and him and his daughter playing a bowling Wii game.......the two kids on the third story playing WWF in their living room (whenever they came to visit their dad. We found out that some noise in apartments just has to be accepted (construction of building), while other noise is made by folks who really don't care about others.
Now we live in a different complex in a different State. The apartment is a "bungaloo" type (no one above us) and we love it (so far that is). The only thing we hear from any neighbor is their door closing, but these doors are hard to close.
We are extremely glad that we moved and got this apartment!
We still think it's just common courtesy that when living in an apartment to be careful of the noise that is made. People don't have to "stomp" their feet going up stairs late at night, = courtesy/respect! People can try to pick good daytime hours to do laundry or vaccuming= courtesy/respect!
Not everyone lives on a daytime schedule you know.
I wok nights, and sleep days (8am-3pm); when else is my housework going to be done? I try and do it during more "normal" hours, but sometimes it is not possible. Especially when we have a very active lifestyle. (between my MMA classes, girl scouts, hubby's boxing, 4 dogs in the house (2 ours, 2 temp fosters), temple, Hebrew lessons, gymnastics and karate, as well as our volunteering we have little to no time for house keeping during the evening hours)
Luckily enough, we were blessed to find a great 2 apartment home (built in 1903 with great construction), that both of our families that live here work nights, so there is no noise at ALL during the day from this house, lol!
Not to mention, not everyone realizes that they "stomp" when they walk. It's not always inconsideration, some are just naturally heavy walkers.
Well, if there are times when you can only clean your apartment or do laundry is at night (after 10PM), then you will probably hear about it from some neighbors. "Day people" who sleep at night don't want to hear a vaccum, dishwasher, washer or dryer running.....for obviously good reasons......they want to sleep!
When I talk about "respecting other tenants", I'll give this as an example: At one complex we use to live in, three cocktail waitresses lived right across an outside hallway from us. I had to encounter them twice at 2AM b/c they were walking up the stairs and talking like it was 2PM and woke me and my wife up. I asked them (politely) "Do you ladies have any idea what time it is and that there are people asleep here. In fact, I have to get up at 6AM for work!" They looked at me like "so" and "we don't care" and then said "we're sorry, we will be quieter next time". Two nights later, same time-same incident and again, I encountered them and they said "we're sorry". We ended up having a letter sent to them by the management. They "then" settled down and a month later moved out. It is people like this that I have no toleration for because they have no respect for people sleeping, like wife and myself.
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