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My son heads to bed at 8 (or at least is suppose to) Most little kids have that as a set bedtime. At least for the younger years. So my suggestion would be if there are children in the building or people who work the wee hours of the morning to set your cut off time at 8pm. 8am-8pm is probably your best bet for playing time.
What is not right is that we have to deal with the whims of a teenager. He gets up very early and if he wants to practice his guitar at 7 am, he does it. He comes in at 10 pm and wants to play...he does it....
Screw us and too bad...(I KNOW he knows he is loud.)
Funny, this weekend he had a friend over (Mom was not there) and he did not play loudly. He started at 8 am playing very softly as to not bother the normal teenager friend who obviously sleeps past 7 am...
So, yeah, it is a problem but I am letting my husband handle it...he said he will just contact the management company and let them deal with it. Our days of 'reasoning' with neighbors is long over. The mother is hardly around and when she is she dodges us or makes some stupid comment about the weather and leaves quickly in her car. Right now he's jacked his amp up and I can hear him across the apartment and she's home so she is useless, too.
Okay I will go upstairs & tell my neighbor he needs to walk quieter (he doesn't stomp around b/c he is mad he is just a heavy walker - as a renter I've met plenty of them) That won't make me sound like an absolute self centered lunatic at all. He's 40 & I'm sure he's been a heavy walker his whole life & he will appreciate me having the audacity to approach him with this. I will also advise him that I will be screening his shoe purchases from now on as well. Alternately I can adjust b/c the man is allowed to walk in the manner he learned how to walk as a child during the day AND at night even. He is also allowed to wear the shoes he wishes & to come and go as he pleases. If that bothers me then I CAN MOVE b/c I AM NOT CUT OUT FOR RENTING.
And btw I hear the sounds of people's TV's constantly & when I've gone in their apt the volume is at a normal level - the walls are just thin (and my neighbors include college professors so if anything it is the Discovery channel that I am hearing). Sorry buddy world doesn't revolve around you - if you can't handle the fact that people walk heavy or they use things that might transmit through a thin wall during the day while maintaining normal activity then YOU are the one who is not cut out for renting.
Oh wait I have another one for you - I used to live in an apt where the guy below me had a horrendous snoring problem & it used to wake me up. Should I have made him go to a Dr. & get it fixed b/c it was rude of him to wake me up with his snoring (which was the WORST I have ever heard in my life) Or should I adjust b/c things like walking & snoring are normal human sounds that the individual is making? Should I have made the renter next door to me hold their hands over their 6 month old's mouths to muffle their cries at night to not wake me up - b/c I mean if a person isn't allowed to walk their normal way then obviously a baby shouldn't be allowed to cry - after all it might disturb the neighbors?
If you're too timid to confront the neighbor about making unnecessary noise that's your problem. Ultimately, I have done just that, and when that didn't work, talked to the office. The noise stopped or diminished such that I can't justify any further complaint (mission accomplished). It's not hard: you signed an agreement that says you need to be cognizant of other people's space and quiet time. If I'm living above someone, I'm not going to be stomping, jumping or slamming stuff down. I take my time and try to be as quiet as possible because I don't want to disturb the person below me. That's common courtesy - and if people don't have it, I will instill it in them. It's not on me to move, it's on them to abide by the rules or get kicked the hell out.
What is not right is that we have to deal with the whims of a teenager. He gets up very early and if he wants to practice his guitar at 7 am, he does it. He comes in at 10 pm and wants to play...he does it....
Screw us and too bad...(I KNOW he knows he is loud.)
Funny, this weekend he had a friend over (Mom was not there) and he did not play loudly. He started at 8 am playing very softly as to not bother the normal teenager friend who obviously sleeps past 7 am...
So, yeah, it is a problem but I am letting my husband handle it...he said he will just contact the management company and let them deal with it. Our days of 'reasoning' with neighbors is long over. The mother is hardly around and when she is she dodges us or makes some stupid comment about the weather and leaves quickly in her car. Right now he's jacked his amp up and I can hear him across the apartment and she's home so she is useless, too.
I think it's best to speak to the management company.
If it's a small thing and it's somebody that you know and you're cool with and you think you can come to agreement on your own, that's one thing.
If not, especially if the person doesn't think they're doing anything wrong, it may see as if you're being bossy, nasty, or trying to call shots. You may even run the risk of pissing the person off and having them increase the behavior. Or just starting some unnecessary beef.
As a landlord, I'd prefer that tenants come to me with a problem such as the one you described. I'd straighten it out without naming names or what have you.
What is not right is that we have to deal with the whims of a teenager. He gets up very early and if he wants to practice his guitar at 7 am, he does it. He comes in at 10 pm and wants to play...he does it....
Screw us and too bad...(I KNOW he knows he is loud.)
Funny, this weekend he had a friend over (Mom was not there) and he did not play loudly. He started at 8 am playing very softly as to not bother the normal teenager friend who obviously sleeps past 7 am...
So, yeah, it is a problem but I am letting my husband handle it...he said he will just contact the management company and let them deal with it. Our days of 'reasoning' with neighbors is long over. The mother is hardly around and when she is she dodges us or makes some stupid comment about the weather and leaves quickly in her car. Right now he's jacked his amp up and I can hear him across the apartment and she's home so she is useless, too.
I still don't understand why you haven't nicely spoken to the kid (who you otherwise don't seem to have a problem with and who you say is polite to you) or his mother (who, it seems, you don't have a problem with other than that she, "dodges us or makes some stupid comment about the weather" but have never approached on the matter.) In my opinion you should have done it a long time ago instead of continuously avoiding the issue and thus worsening the situation. Cheers!
If not, especially if the person doesn't think they're doing anything wrong, it may see as if you're being bossy, nasty, or trying to call shots. You may even run the risk of pissing the person off and having them increase the behavior. Or just starting some unnecessary beef.
This is why we do not want to approach them. Last year we rented a 2 family house and the lady below us was a morning riser and blasted her tv. I was able to approach her, very nicely, and ask if she could just keep it down in the very early morning hours. I also said if we made any sort of noise, please let us know so we could accommodate her. It worked out great for all of us.
This time, there really is no point trying. I will leave it to my husband to deal with.
No I'm just sane enough to realize that complaining to someone that they walk too loud or snore is the mark of a lunatic.
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Originally Posted by revelated
If you're too timid to confront the neighbor about making unnecessary noise that's your problem. Ultimately, I have done just that, and when that didn't work, talked to the office. The noise stopped or diminished such that I can't justify any further complaint (mission accomplished). It's not hard: you signed an agreement that says you need to be cognizant of other people's space and quiet time. If I'm living above someone, I'm not going to be stomping, jumping or slamming stuff down. I take my time and try to be as quiet as possible because I don't want to disturb the person below me. That's common courtesy - and if people don't have it, I will instill it in them. It's not on me to move, it's on them to abide by the rules or get kicked the hell out.
No I'm just sane enough to realize that complaining to someone that they walk too loud or snore is the mark of a lunatic.
Negative. You're afraid.
The rules are clear. Keep the noise down. I didn't make the rule. If you want to stomp around and make all kinds of noise, buy a house where you can do whatever the blue hell you please. In a common housing situation such as an apartment, if there is a rule that states you need to be a certain level of quiet, there is no discussion on the topic. Either learn to be quiet, or get kicked out. No gray area. No ambiguity. Do what you're told and stay, or deviate and be forcefully evicted.
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