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Old 01-26-2010, 01:34 AM
 
Location: Pomona
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Well evidently I set a fire. There was no intent, but none of those were very commercial. The Saab Sonet was fiber glass incase you wouldn't know, and they actually made it on American roads in pretty large numbers in ft wheel drive.
I dunno about "large numbers" ... a single year's production of 900s prolly outnumbers the entire run of Sonetts ...

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And Yes there was mechanical fuel injection pre 1968, but no American electronic injection in 1968 other than Volvo, a Bosche system called D Jetronic.
AMC had the Electrojector in 1957, Chrysler adopted it in 1958, and VW used the D-jet in 1967 before the Swedes did.

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In 1970 you couldn't buy a Volvo or a Saab that had even rear drum brakes, and America took till around the mid 80's to just get on board and use them as Ft wheel disk. Quite frankly as a foreign car tech I was shocked at current American cars not so equipped.
Not in the US, but the DAF/Volvo 66 and the subsequent 340/360-series were equipped with rear drums. Fact of the matter is that drum brakes can work, provided they're large enough. Look at semi-trucks ...

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Which is plastic are you refering to the Bricklin (sp)?
Plastic = 1953 Corvette.
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Old 01-26-2010, 03:50 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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There was a "save Saab" rally out by my wife's work last Sunday. Wish I would have known, I would have driven mine out there to join in the festivities.
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Old 01-26-2010, 05:44 AM
 
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....and VW used the D-jet in 1967 before the Swedes did....
In fact, I believe VW's version was the first electronic fuel injection available in ANY production car at the time. They used it in the 2nd generation air cooled engine used in the Fastback & Squareback.
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Old 01-26-2010, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Pomona
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Today, the deal is official ...
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Old 01-26-2010, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Floyd Co, VA
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Oh those old Saab Shrikes hold a special place in my heart. Dated a Saab mechanic for several years so drove a couple of different models. Moved cross country in '73 from NY to CA after having broken up with the BF. Driving a wagon that one no longer had to add oil with every tank of gas, there was an oil reservoir. Something went wrong, no oil, engine seized up but good.

Called BF, collect, at the shop where he worked and two days later he airfreighted a rebuilt engine, no charge for any of it. My brother and I put it in at the campgrounds we were staying at in KS. Made it to CA fine, though going over Loveland Pass in the Rockies and Donner Summit in the Sierras was a slow crawl.

My brother, his wife and I were still good friends with the BF and tried and tried to get him to come for a visit. No go. Until my SIL's Saab needed some serious repairs. For that he was willing to come visit CA. He was a great guy, wish he was still alive.
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Old 01-26-2010, 11:55 AM
 
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I worked on hundreds if not thousands of bug, fast backs and square backs with D jet, but I can't recall any before 1968, set up that way. In 68 volvo made the last year of the 122 and the first year of the 140 series, and these could be SU carbed or D jet.

So far as I know AMC wasn't anything, as it was Nash then Rambler, but before my time. If there was any electronic injection for anything like any AMC, I am simply not aware and never saw one, or many..

Sure drum brakes work. I just beat a pair off a toyota pick up... My chevy K-10 has them too on the back, so does my Dodge Conversion Van.

By 1976 not many current Euro cars had drum brakes unless it was the parking brake inside a rotor. USA cars still had them, and today some still do.

For 8 months I had a escort. It got creamed, but before it did since it was a replacement for a Saab, I went over what to me was a Foreign Car.

I was astonished to find drum braakes in the 90's amd more so when I saw the drums which looked familar... It took a while to see these were from 1959 MGA...
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Old 01-26-2010, 05:37 PM
 
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Today, the deal is official ...
And here is a link to the NY TIMES article confirming that... SAAB LIVES !!!
I'd love to see the new 9-5.. redesign looks nice..

G.M. Strikes Deal to Save Saab - NYTimes.com
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Old 01-26-2010, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Where was Saab's world's first "V8" in 1915?
The Cadillac V-8 engine was introduced in 1914. 314-cu-in and 70 horsepower.
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Old 01-27-2010, 05:24 AM
 
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And here is a link to the NY TIMES article confirming that... SAAB LIVES !!!
I'd love to see the new 9-5.. redesign looks nice..

G.M. Strikes Deal to Save Saab - NYTimes.com
Here's hoping they've managed to get the electrical problems from the Insignia platform out of it before they launch the 9-5, if they get a lot of recalls on that first vehicle, it'll be in trouble from the get go.
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Old 01-27-2010, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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20 years later this same system was used on Cadidillyac as 8, 6 and 4, which was a total disaster.
The 8-6-4 setup could be disconnected, then the engine ran fine.

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In 1970 you couldn't buy a Volvo or a Saab that had even rear drum brakes, and America took till around the mid 80's to just get on board and use them as Ft wheel disk. Quite frankly as a foreign car tech I was shocked at current American cars not so equipped.
Ft wheel? Front wheel? Disc brakes were available as an option on my '66 Plymouth Fury. Other American cars had them as an option, too, like the Corvette.

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Maybe from 1946 to 1968 the USA was King in cars with tons of raw power, lacking in other things like handling.
Actually, up to 1971. And you could buy American cars which handled well. For instance the testers at Car Life said this about a 1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340:
"The Barracuda, while not a sports car, negotiated many curves at speeds that would give some accepted 'sports cars' considerable strain."
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