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Old 07-24-2011, 01:39 PM
 
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I think I read somewhere that a widow is entitled to a benefit upon the death of her husband, if they were married at least 9 (? or 11) years, even
though they divorced-separated.

a. Would this be a social security benefit?
b. How is the amount calculated?
c. Could the benefit be because the deceased husband had served in the military?
d. If there is a difference between legally divorced and legally separated, does that affect the entitlement to the benefit?

Thanks.
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Old 07-24-2011, 01:49 PM
 
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It's social security if the person was married for at least 10 years. Nothing to do with military. It's only for divorced, not separated. Must have been legally married for at least ten years. I think you get 1/2 of his ss amount (it has no effect on how much he gets though.) You lose it if you remarry but there may be something about remarrying after age 62??
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Old 07-24-2011, 02:25 PM
 
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It's social security if the person was married for at least 10 years. Nothing to do with military. It's only for divorced, not separated. Must have been legally married for at least ten years. I think you get 1/2 of his ss amount (it has no effect on how much he gets though.) You lose it if you remarry but there may be something about remarrying after age 62??
thanks for the answer.

50% could be significant, compared to the widow's current s.s., which would have been based on her work history, and she may have not worked during the marriage years.

In a separate case,
I know a guy who is a disabled veteran. His benefit is pretty high. It's more than my own retirement income. He says his wife would receive part of his. He is getting a small s.s. check too, having turned age 62. So, he gets two government checks, disabled veteran and s.s. His wife is on SSI and not sure how she qualifies with their household income being so high. He could survive financially without her income, but she could not survive financially without him, because her SSI is so low compared to their lifestyle, etc.
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Old 07-24-2011, 05:56 PM
 
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A divorced widow if married the required 10 years is entitled to the same benefits as a Widow not divorced, that would include someone separated as they are still legally married. The amount of the benefit would depend on the age of the widow and whether the X husband had been collecting retirement benefits at the time. If he had or was elegible to then the X wife would collect the full amount of the deceased benefit amount, with possible deductions depending on HER age.
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Old 12-15-2015, 11:10 PM
 
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A divorced widow if married the required 10 years is entitled to the same benefits as a Widow not divorced, that would include someone separated as they are still legally married. The amount of the benefit would depend on the age of the widow and whether the X husband had been collecting retirement benefits at the time. If he had or was elegible to then the X wife would collect the full amount of the deceased benefit amount, with possible deductions depending on HER age.
What if he remarries - when he dies, do both women (the ex married over 10 years, and the widow) both receive benefits?
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Old 12-16-2015, 02:12 AM
 
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they do but how much they get also depends on what age they file for survivor benefits

Last edited by mathjak107; 12-16-2015 at 03:17 AM..
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Old 12-16-2015, 07:04 AM
 
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A widow says she is now getting part of the deceased spouses s.s. benefit. From the s.s. website it says the widow gets her s.s. benefit or his s.s. benefit whichever is greater.

So, when she thinks she is getting part of his (hers + some of his) then really she is not getting any of hers but all of his..?
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Old 12-16-2015, 07:11 AM
 
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I don't think someone is a widow if they had an ex-husband pass away.
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Old 12-16-2015, 07:42 AM
 
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thanks for the answer.

50% could be significant, compared to the widow's current s.s., which would have been based on her work history, and she may have not worked during the marriage years.

In a separate case,
I know a guy who is a disabled veteran. His benefit is pretty high. It's more than my own retirement income. He says his wife would receive part of his. He is getting a small s.s. check too, having turned age 62. So, he gets two government checks, disabled veteran and s.s. His wife is on SSI and not sure how she qualifies with their household income being so high. He could survive financially without her income, but she could not survive financially without him, because her SSI is so low compared to their lifestyle, etc.
Yes, she would be entitled to part of his va compensation, but there are conditions to how much etc.
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Old 12-16-2015, 07:50 AM
 
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What if he remarries - when he dies, do both women (the ex married over 10 years, and the widow) both receive benefits?
He could have numerous wives throughout his life. If he stayed married to them for 10 years before divorce and none of the ex wives remarried then all of them can get SS from him when he dies or when they reach eligibility age. And it's not divvied up either...all get full benefits.
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