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Old 08-03-2011, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Wow! That's great - I'm really bad at pushups but I don't want batwings!
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Old 08-03-2011, 04:39 PM
 
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Age, schmage. Whatever fits and is comfortable. I spent years having to dress up for work. Now I love my sweats and casuals. The sweats are for in the house. The casuals are for the public.

My favorite outfit is blue jeans and anything on top. And if anything even hints of tight or binding it's gone.

Of course, if I am going to a special function I will dress appropriately, but I am glad I don't have to do that every day.
Totally agree with Minervah here. I want to be comfortable. Guys dress comfortably all of their lives. I think it should be the same for women.

I'm sick of the tv shows such as Golden Girls, etc. where they show the women dressed up all the freaking time. Trying to put across their brainwashing that no matter what age, we women are all about our looks. They can stuff it.
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Old 08-03-2011, 05:13 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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BayArea4,
Thank you! I asked several people today and they had no clue either. Is it when you raise your arms over your head or just out? I don't think I have them but I don't want them.

Is swimming good to eliminate these? I am a swimmer. I was a swimmer in my tweens and teens and always felt my arms looked "big" but I guess that was muscles!!

I do have a rowing machine. I think we'll become best friends. No problem there.

I've never been to Chico's myself but I've wandered into Talbots a few times and the clothes seem OK but I've never been overly excited. I sure miss Lord & Taylor, Jordan Marsh and the old Burdines (that is now Macys).

If you're from SF, I also miss I. Magnin - I went there a few times when I visited and I always brought back a few outfits and believe it or not, I have them still. Very classic. Beautiful clothing.
You're welcome, Bette! To answer your question about batwings, they are visible when you hold your arms straight out to the side and the flab hangs down. I'm not an exercise expert, but it seems logical to me that swimming might help because swimming works the arms.

Ah, I. Magnin! I miss it, too. It had that "old money" feeling about it. I couldn't afford their prices but I enjoyed browsing there and occasionally found something good on sale. There was also a J. Magnin store that catered to a younger crowd. I also remember shopping at Lord & Taylor's when I lived in New York.

I agree about Talbot's; the styles aren't that exciting, but at least the quality is superior to Chico's. Most department store clothing is so flimsy-looking and the styles only look good on 19-year-old fashion models. Have you noticed that dresses, even wedding dresses, hardly ever have sleeves any more? I think it's a conspiracy to charge the same prices for less product, and most of us older ladies -- with or without batwings -- don't look that good in sleeveless clothing. It's the same with shoes. A couple of thin leather strips mounted on an insole is not worth $250! Don't even get me started on flip-flops.

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Old 08-03-2011, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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My "bat wings" are more like elephant ears. I remember my aunt when she was my age and when she devleoped them. At the time I never thought I would be the proud wearer of these but it looks like I inherited auntie's old arms.

I solve the problem by not wearing sleeveless shirts. The only ones to see them are me and the cat.
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Old 08-03-2011, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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OK, ladies, I'm often in the dark about a lot of things but what are batwings (sounds terrible) and can they be prevented? And if so, how?
It's the lower hangy, baggy, ugly part of the upper arm that waves goodbye long after the rest of you stops.

If I ever trip over a bunch of money that can only be used for plastic surgery, that's my number one candidate.

They are caused by loose skin and age. They are made worse by extreme weight gains and losses over your lifetime. No amount of exercise can get rid of loose skin. Exercise can develop the muscles under the skin and help it look a little better.

The best way to avoid them is to be really thin all your life.
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Old 08-03-2011, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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It's the lower hangy, baggy, ugly part of the upper arm that waves goodbye long after the rest of you stops.

If I ever trip over a bunch of money that can only be used for plastic surgery, that's my number one candidate.

They are caused by loose skin and age. They are made worse by extreme weight gains and losses over your lifetime. No amount of exercise can get rid of loose skin. Exercise can develop the muscles under the skin and help it look a little better.

The best way to avoid them is to be really thin all your life.
I disagree. I know women who have been thin all their lives and I was thin most of my life who never had bat winds until they became middle age or older.
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Old 08-03-2011, 07:01 PM
 
Location: California Mountains
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I disagree. I know women who have been thin all their lives and I was thin most of my life who never had bat winds until they became middle age or older.
Ditto. I was born thin and I'm still thin; all my life, my weight has always been at the low end of the ideal range for my age and frame, still, I'm developing flabby arms now. With husband's encouragement, I use hand weights and do push-ups every day to halt the flab.
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Old 08-03-2011, 07:15 PM
 
Location: earth?
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OMG. I Magnin is a blast from the past. I LOVED that store. There was J. Magnin too, but I Magnin was amazing!
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Old 08-04-2011, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Ottawa Valley & Dunedin FL
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I thought is was rather funny that none of you ladies made a comment about my wife wearing a baseball cap sometimes AND she is in her early 60's!
I wear a baseball cap sometimes, and I'm also in my early 60's. It's not strictly a baseball cap, got it on a cruise to Tahiti 11 years ago, but I love that cap. I decided recently that I need to get another one, but I'll wait until I'm in Florida this winter.

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Old 08-04-2011, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Central Florida
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It's the lower hangy, baggy, ugly part of the upper arm that waves goodbye long after the rest of you stops.

If I ever trip over a bunch of money that can only be used for plastic surgery, that's my number one candidate.

They are caused by loose skin and age. They are made worse by extreme weight gains and losses over your lifetime. No amount of exercise can get rid of loose skin. Exercise can develop the muscles under the skin and help it look a little better.

The best way to avoid them is to be really thin all your life.
But the scarring I see is horrific! And me, I scar terribly!!!
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