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Old 07-09-2012, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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Don't some states require license renewal annually after a certain age?
I don't see how you can make a blanket statement about everyone over a certain age. 65 is still relatively young. 80+ could be an issue, but it's very individual.
My OP said VERY OLD drivers (way past 65), as in 80s and 90s.
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Old 07-09-2012, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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A good story, with good advice at the end:

AHHA: Dad, It's Not Safe For You To Drive Anymore!

Sounds like a good book, too. Elder Care - information on alzheimers disease and dementia


ETA: There are 77 million of us boomers. In 20 years we will be in our 80s+ and how many will still be on the road? Somehow I picture bumper cars at the fair... (:
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Old 07-09-2012, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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My FIL will not pass the test. He cannot hear (thanks to chemotherapy for lymphoma). He never turns his head to look where he's going. His speech is slurred (again thanks to a mild stroke a couple of years ago) - the examiner won't understand him.

My MIL may pass the test - but she's a princess and wants to be driven. She wants the privileges of "independence" and not the responsibility.

I cannot be the only one out there with elderly parents who refuse to stop driving.
I understand. My father's hearing is shot, well, at least in one ear for sure. He does not have central vision in one eye b/c of wet macular degeneration and has a small?? cataract in the remaining eye. His retinal specialist stated he is legally able to drive b/c he still retains his peripheral vision in one eye and decent vision in the remaining eye. It doesn't matter if he can't hear, because deaf people are allowed to drive. And as for your father's slurred speech-that should be irrelevant. Not turning his head to look where he is going could be a problem. Does California actually have the individual take the regular driving test?

My father is supposed to be temporarily grounded until he no longer has excessive daytime sleepiness. He told me yesterday that he will drive if he needs to go somewhere and can't find a ride. Example: He fell down during the night, didn't want to wake anyone up at 4 a.m. so he pinned a towel around his bleeding arm and drove himself to the emergency room. This was before the next two falls, one of which resulted in a fractured rib. I know he will not use the senior transit bus, because he is certain he will not fall asleep while driving and he doesn't need the d*** bus. However, he IS trying to use his CPAP to get a good night's sleep, so I haven't lost all hope, yet.
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Old 07-09-2012, 05:13 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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I cannot believe this subject has been resurrected. I could have sworn that everything that needed to be said on the subject, and not, had already been posted. Who knew?
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Old 07-09-2012, 05:18 PM
 
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I cannot believe this subject has been resurrected. I could have sworn that everything that needed to be said on the subject, and not, had already been posted. Who knew?
Nope, not settled yet. Be careful in them thar Ozarks, elderly folks there drive to 110.
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Old 07-09-2012, 05:50 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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Nope, not settled yet. Be careful in them thar Ozarks, elderly folks there drive to 110.
At my age I'm beginning to resemble that remark.
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Old 07-09-2012, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Edina, MN, USA
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I understand. My father's hearing is shot, well, at least in one ear for sure. He does not have central vision in one eye b/c of wet macular degeneration and has a small?? cataract in the remaining eye. His retinal specialist stated he is legally able to drive b/c he still retains his peripheral vision in one eye and decent vision in the remaining eye. It doesn't matter if he can't hear, because deaf people are allowed to drive. And as for your father's slurred speech-that should be irrelevant. Not turning his head to look where he is going could be a problem. Does California actually have the individual take the regular driving test?

My father is supposed to be temporarily grounded until he no longer has excessive daytime sleepiness. He told me yesterday that he will drive if he needs to go somewhere and can't find a ride. Example: He fell down during the night, didn't want to wake anyone up at 4 a.m. so he pinned a towel around his bleeding arm and drove himself to the emergency room. This was before the next two falls, one of which resulted in a fractured rib. I know he will not use the senior transit bus, because he is certain he will not fall asleep while driving and he doesn't need the d*** bus. However, he IS trying to use his CPAP to get a good night's sleep, so I haven't lost all hope, yet.
Ok, it's not funny
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Old 07-10-2012, 10:18 AM
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Location: North Monterey County
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It doesn't matter if he can't hear, because deaf people are allowed to drive. And as for your father's slurred speech-that should be irrelevant. Not turning his head to look where he is going could be a problem. Does California actually have the individual take the regular driving test?
Deaf people, unlike my FIL, have a history of extrasensory perception developed because of their hearing loss. For my FIL - this is a relatively new concept that he has never gotten used to. He still calls us on the non-amplified phone and we spend the first 10 minutes of the call telling him to hang up and call us on that phone.

As for the slurred speech - if he's had one stroke he can have another.

I DO hope they are made to take behind-the-wheel tests. The examiner will also see how they have not maintained their car.

On one of our visits - probably 10 years ago - we rode with him as he drove the freeway (405 in LA)... I sat in the back and was CERTAIN we were going to blow a tire - as the wheel felt VERY low. Sure enough it was. My husband took the car in for a complete review... and all sorts of regular maintenance was not done.
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Old 07-10-2012, 12:26 PM
 
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Reviving "This Old Thread."


In June I decided to write down on a pad in my car (no, not while driving) instances in which elderly drivers around me pose a serious threat to others.

In all the instances I wrote down in the month of June, most of them were elderly in parking lots pulling out and nearly hitting me or someone in front of me. I mean, these old drivers do not even turn their heads left or right to look behind them, they just pull out! I've blasted several with my horn and swear I nearly caused them heart attacks. One scary incident was when an old geezer pulled out (waiting for a space, I could see he did not even look in his mirror) and came within inches of hitting a young kid walking closely behind the car with his mother into a store. The mother grabbed the kid's arm and hussled him forward and gave an angry look at the driver who proceeded to pull out without even a pause.

If you are old, or sort of old, or impaired in any way, PLEASE turn your head around completely (yes, aches and pains and all) and look before backing out. Better still: park in a spot where you have to pull forward to get out, rather than back. The grandkid you kill could be your own.

ETA: Yeah I know that statistically teens cause the most accidents on the roads, but I'll be not in parking lots.
My gramps is 72 and still drives - I trust his driving no problems. My other gramps is 82...his, I'm not so sure. I've had plenty of old betties and geezers pull out here, like you said, in parking lots. Alot of them just don't look. I had one pull out of a parking lot onto a main road...he literally just rolled into the road. Even with ABS I left rubber on the road trying to stop and laid on the horn trying to get him to move...I think I literally scared the sh*t out of him - he came to a dead stop and just looked into the road with deer eyes. I watched an older gentleman roll right into the back of someones car at a stoplight...he didn't even realize he'd done it. No damage, but he wouldn't even admit he'd done it when the other driver got out of their car...he was completely scatterbrained. Alot of older folks here (Northern VA/DC) also seem scared to drive on the interstate. If traffic around you is moving at the speed limit or faster, you NEED to at least be doing the limit. Trying to merge onto a highway at 30 when traffic is moving at 70 will get you killed, and it's almost always older folks doing it. To be fair, I've seen some younger folks do it...but 9/10, it's someone who *looks* over 70.

Teens are horrible drivers, don't get me wrong - I didn't have a cell phone when I was learning to drive way back in '99, but I'm far more afraid of older drivers than I am of teens.
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Old 07-10-2012, 01:37 PM
 
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My gramps is 72 and still drives - I trust his driving no problems. My other gramps is 82...his, I'm not so sure. I've had plenty of old betties and geezers pull out here, like you said, in parking lots. Alot of them just don't look. I had one pull out of a parking lot onto a main road...he literally just rolled into the road. Even with ABS I left rubber on the road trying to stop and laid on the horn trying to get him to move...I think I literally scared the sh*t out of him - he came to a dead stop and just looked into the road with deer eyes. I watched an older gentleman roll right into the back of someones car at a stoplight...he didn't even realize he'd done it. No damage, but he wouldn't even admit he'd done it when the other driver got out of their car...he was completely scatterbrained. Alot of older folks here (Northern VA/DC) also seem scared to drive on the interstate. If traffic around you is moving at the speed limit or faster, you NEED to at least be doing the limit. Trying to merge onto a highway at 30 when traffic is moving at 70 will get you killed, and it's almost always older folks doing it. To be fair, I've seen some younger folks do it...but 9/10, it's someone who *looks* over 70.

Teens are horrible drivers, don't get me wrong - I didn't have a cell phone when I was learning to drive way back in '99, but I'm far more afraid of older drivers than I am of teens.
Glad (I think) that I'm not the only one who's experienced this.
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