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Old 07-10-2012, 04:15 PM
 
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I'll take the older driver any day over the smoking, eating, texting/ cell phone young things. I've had a lot more close calls with them.

Good heavens, I think they are both as bad as the other. I have a friend with both parents having to stop driving... mother because she kept driving across lanes and getting into accidents and her father because he likes to go to lunch and have too many cocktails and then drives home. I have a neighbor who crossed 2 lanes and got hit by a truck because he just pulled out into traffic. he fractured his pelvis, totalled his car and sent the other driver to the hospital as well. AND he still felt he could continue driving after he came home from rehab. Thankfully, they never gave him his license back.
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Old 07-11-2012, 03:40 PM
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Location: North Monterey County
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Well, I do live in a state where teen drivers outnumber the rest of us by about 10:1. A number of automobile deaths due to texting have been made very very public here.

It still doesn't stop them.



I'd say they were about equal to elder drivers who should be pulled off the road nationally.
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Old 07-16-2012, 07:20 PM
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Location: North Monterey County
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I am now more than ever convinced I did the right thing reporting my inlaws to the California DMV.

This weekend dadinlaw calls - in frustration - mominlaw has intractable back pain and "should I take her to the nursing home?"
This the FIRST time his frustration is palpable. Remember - SHE is the licensed driver - his has expired. We talk them through the situation - and she takes a pain pill (she hates taking pills) and her pain is eventually relieved. This back pain is the result of a fall she had two weeks ago when she was transported by ambulance - and he (unlicensed) followed in the CAR. They won't take cabs.

They have a grandson 50 miles from them (we are 700 miles from them). This grandson is married to a NURSE. They won't call "and bother them". Nor will they call their much younger friends with cars - to help transport them. This is their definition of "independence".

California DMV called me today - to confirm their address and their previous address (in their computer records). They will send them a letter - and a form for their physicians to fill out and sign - OKing them to drive. I'm not certain he will sign it. This is a doctor they switched to last year - after the previous doctor told dadinlaw he couldn't drive and will need assistance sooner than later.

California law requires physicians (Heath & Safety Code Section 103900) to report disorders characterized by lapses of consciousness as well as Alzheimers disease and related disorders. They also may report any other condition they believe would affect the patients ability to drive safely. In these cases, it is best to counsel the patient about driving retirement and options, and about your legal obligation to report to the California DMV or state public health office. Note: As this is a public safety issue, HIPAA consent is NOT required when reporting an individual to the California DMV or public health office.

ElderSafety – Providing education and support for senior drivers

If the doctor says, "No"... the case is closed. If not - they take the written test and have an appointment with a hearing officer. If it even gets that far - they take a behind the wheel test. My guess is - it won't get that far.

We are moving - slowly - in the direction of assisted living and stopping their driving permanently. If they don't have an accident in the meantime.

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Old 07-17-2012, 08:52 AM
 
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I am now more than ever convinced I did the right thing reporting my inlaws to the California DMV.

This weekend dadinlaw calls - in frustration - mominlaw has intractable back pain and "should I take her to the nursing home?"
This the FIRST time his frustration is palpable. Remember - SHE is the licensed driver - his has expired. We talk them through the situation - and she takes a pain pill (she hates taking pills) and her pain is eventually relieved. This back pain is the result of a fall she had two weeks ago when she was transported by ambulance - and he (unlicensed) followed in the CAR. They won't take cabs.

They have a grandson 50 miles from them (we are 700 miles from them). This grandson is married to a NURSE. They won't call "and bother them". Nor will they call their much younger friends with cars - to help transport them. This is their definition of "independence".

California DMV called me today - to confirm their address and their previous address (in their computer records). They will send them a letter - and a form for their physicians to fill out and sign - OKing them to drive. I'm not certain he will sign it. This is a doctor they switched to last year - after the previous doctor told dadinlaw he couldn't drive and will need assistance sooner than later.

California law requires physicians (Heath & Safety Code Section 103900) to report disorders characterized by lapses of consciousness as well as Alzheimers disease and related disorders. They also may report any other condition they believe would affect the patients ability to drive safely. In these cases, it is best to counsel the patient about driving retirement and options, and about your legal obligation to report to the California DMV or state public health office. Note: As this is a public safety issue, HIPAA consent is NOT required when reporting an individual to the California DMV or public health office.

ElderSafety Providing education and support for senior drivers

If the doctor says, "No"... the case is closed. If not - they take the written test and have an appointment with a hearing officer. If it even gets that far - they take a behind the wheel test. My guess is - it won't get that far.

We are moving - slowly - in the direction of assisted living and stopping their driving permanently. If they don't have an accident in the meantime.
Yeesh....sounds like an accident waiting to happen. I've seen a few older folks driving around where I do my best to get as far away as possible...I don't even want to be in the general vicinity when they or the vehicle self destructs. Once or twice I've called the PD to let them know, but I can't follow them everywhere and PD still has to find them. Our county is pretty good about that though. I think it's a toss sometimes between teens and older drivers - they can both be pretty bad. I usually just see the teens texting, a quick blow of the horn will usually get them to straighten up...I'm not entirely sure some of the older folks can hear it. I've had them roll out in front of me, completely oblivious.
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Old 07-17-2012, 09:36 AM
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It's also interesting to note - that the California DMV SAFETY OFFICES are different from the regular DMV offices:

DMV Locations and Hours

They were exceptionally helpful.
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Old 07-17-2012, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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I've had them roll out in front of me, completely oblivious.
Yes, besides the very-elderly backing out obliviously in parking lots, this is also a fright. Twice in the last year I've come within a hair of being hit by an oldster just barreling out of a driveway without looking. Once I blared my horn so hard the woman's car seemed to jump, but it allowed her to swerve slightly to avoid crashing into mine. As I drive, now I check out cars waiting to come out of driveways. Driving defensively is a must these days. BTW, I have a friend who is a nurse who tells me the numbers of meds that the average elderly person is on (many). She said some, and combos, make them much less than alert.
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Old 07-19-2012, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Default Here's a case in point:

A senior was driving on the freeway when his cell phone rang. It was his wife, who said, "Herman, I just heard on the news that there is a wrong-way driver on Interstate 280. Please be careful." Herman answered, "Not just one wrong-way driver, honey. There are hundreds of them!"
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Old 07-20-2012, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Verde Valley AZ
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Yes, besides the very-elderly backing out obliviously in parking lots, this is also a fright. Twice in the last year I've come within a hair of being hit by an oldster just barreling out of a driveway without looking. Once I blared my horn so hard the woman's car seemed to jump, but it allowed her to swerve slightly to avoid crashing into mine. As I drive, now I check out cars waiting to come out of driveways. Driving defensively is a must these days. BTW, I have a friend who is a nurse who tells me the numbers of meds that the average elderly person is on (many). She said some, and combos, make them much less than alert.
One of my friends got hit by an older man in the parking lot at work last week. He knocked her down and she was RIGHT IN FRONT of his front tire on the ground! I thought he was going to run over her. He just didn't see her I guess. She ended up with some nasty bruises on her legs and knees but was otherwise okay. He stopped long enough to ask her if she was "okay" then got back in his car and drove off! Another co worker got his license number but we've heard nothing since.

I get aggravated at people crossing the drives at work because they don't even look up to see what the traffic is before crossing to the parking lot. Most are just oblivious and I'm soooo tempted to blast my horn at them just to get them to look up! It's like they KNOW that nobody is going to run them over so they just saunter along with their head in the clouds. I'm surprised we don't have more accidents considering how busy our store and parking lot is.
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Old 07-21-2012, 09:27 PM
 
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One of big issues that I have with aged drivers is many times they need the use of disabled parking at stores. The spots are at the front near the door, which is the proper placement. The aged driver pulls into these spots and the aged driver must back out to leave because the disability signs at the front of the spot prevent driving forward to leave. These spots are near a spot where there is large pedestrian traffic to enter the store, at the front door.

I think that disabled parking should be pull in and drive forward to leave, so as to minimize the problem of them hitting someone in backing up. I am disabled and I use these spots and one must pay very strict attention in backing up because of all the people moving around this area. Many seniors have sight impairment and lack attention.

I had a situation where I was walking to the front door and an aged driver was backing up and was backing up toward me; I screamed and tried to run out of the way, but it was difficult for me to move because I use a cane and have difficulty walking--he missed me by inches.

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Old 07-22-2012, 06:46 AM
 
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A senior was driving on the freeway when his cell phone rang. It was his wife, who said, "Herman, I just heard on the news that there is a wrong-way driver on Interstate 280. Please be careful." Herman answered, "Not just one wrong-way driver, honey. There are hundreds of them!"
good one.......sounds like my 85 year old father-inlaw!
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