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Old 09-23-2012, 09:51 AM
 
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This just in on a PBS news report, Aug 25, 2011.

- 37 million people will be over the age of 65 by 2020.
- 90% will be driving.
- 3 million drivers are over age 85 now.
- One guy interview on PBS Newshour has just had a license renewed that is good till he is age 100.
- Only Illinois requires seniors to take a road test.

1. Is it a “dangerous luxury” for old people to operate road vehicles?
(No matter how safely the old folks think they drive, do they still pose a high potential danger?)


2. At what age do you think you’ll stop driving and why? How will you get around?


3. Other thoughts?
Hmm good question, if I'm in 4 wheel drift in my Corvette, there could be some danger, but I notice lately when I drive most everyone passes me on the interstate. In fact, I was wondering if it still means what it did in the '60's when some kid flips you the bird. As far as quitting driving someday, since I personally don't own a gun let me just say that I will stop driving when they pry the keys out of my cold dead hand. Just kidding, however--mandatory testing may well be the answer. I saw a news story a few weeks ago, about a man over 100 (can you believe it) that got confused behind the wheel of his car and hit a bunch of people. No way should someone that old be driving.

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Old 09-23-2012, 10:35 AM
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Location: North Monterey County
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The news of the 100 year old man hitting and critically injuring people came the very same week my MIL was asked to come in and be retested.

She had no clue we reported her... she just thought the DMV was calling in all elderly drivers.

It's a shame they don't. They have the database of all elderly licensed drivers. They don't have the $$$ or the will.
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Old 09-24-2012, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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I am so glad you and your husband did the right thing in forcing change. You may have saved some lives.
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Old 09-24-2012, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Edina, MN, USA
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In this area you learn to stay off the roads on Tuesdays - senior citizen discount day. They are out in droves and your chance of getting in an accident goes up by about 80%.

It's interesting that for the most part, the seniors that are out on other days drive just fine - I guess they stay off the roads on Tuesdays too.

Driving ability is a very individual thing. I suspect many of these bad senior drivers were bad drivers at 20, 30, 40~~~~
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Old 09-24-2012, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Traverse City, MI
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Why not have all drivers of any age submit to a state administered eye test and a reaction test every four years until 80 then every year.
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Old 03-26-2013, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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Latest family crisis. Need advice.

My sister's FIL is 92 and has just been diagnosed with inoperable cancer. He cannot see well or hear well. He is not frail, but turning around in the driver seat to look behind him, no. And he will get frailer as the cancer progresses.

My sister's husband, the FIL's son, refuses to do anything about getting the car keys and the car away from his dad (the latest is that FIL plans to drive to make a 90-mile trip one-way soon, alone, to visit other family ).

My sister is livid that neither her husband nor her husband's brother care that this old man could get himself, or worse, innocent others killed on the road. I told my sis that if they refuse to do anything, I will help her in getting the keys and car. Of course I have no idea how to get the keys and car, and my sister is reluctant to get involved without her husband. Neither she nor her husband has a set of dad's car keys.

Of note is that the old gent (pig-headed, arrogant, in denial) refuses to give up driving.

I went on the DMV website and found a clause about reporting unfit drivers. The problem is, you can report them or they can fail the required eye test (here you have to take it annually over the age of 75) but you can, and many oldsters do, continue to drive even with a revoked license. Aside: Sis says that FIL has never gone for the eye test over the age of 75, he probably doesn't know about it and neither did she.

If my sister and I decide to pursue, I'd be getting involved and I'm not so sure it's right for me to do so. On the other hand, if her husband refuses, she says she will refuse to do anything. But she says she will if I help her.

1. Do I get involved, or stay out of it (I'm thinking of the innocent people who could be harmed or killed)?

2. What ploy can we use to get the keys

3. If we do, he surely has another set. How can we then get the car if he refuses to give it up? Drive it away while he's sleeping? Ask the police what to do?

4. Just forget the whole thing and hope for the best?
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Old 03-26-2013, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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I would be very hesitant to "drive the car away while he's sleeping". You might be guilty of grand theft auto if it's not your car. Checking with the police is a good idea, and perhaps with a lawyer. Be careful.
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Old 03-26-2013, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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I would be very hesitant to "drive the car away while he's sleeping". You might be guilty of grand theft auto if it's not your car. Checking with the police is a good idea, and perhaps with a lawyer. Be careful.
Yes indeed, we realized that as soon as we said it. I can just see the two of us in jail after having tried to save lives. I like your idea of checking with a lawyer, and I do believe I will give the police a call though I'm fairly certain they will have no helpful information, after all what can they really say. The DMV can take away the license but not the keys and car. The latter is the big one, and as you suggest there are legal issues around it. i wish someone would write a book about how to deal with pigheaded elders. I could write most of it, but luckily my mother gave up driving at 80, on her own. Of course that meant that sis and I had to bring her everywhere and often do her shopping. What we went through to save her and other people's lives.
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Old 03-26-2013, 07:59 PM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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What ploy can we use to get the keys
Disable the car.

Open the hood and you should easily see the distributor cap.
Remove the **center** wire.
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Old 03-26-2013, 09:50 PM
 
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I have tweo police officer neighbors. thsi has come up ansd surprisingly they say the most dangerous are younger drivers.The stats show that as well as insurance studies.Under 25 the most dnagerous drivers they say.I know that when i was younger I always saw slower driver and figurte they were older ;so made allowances. They say the impoared on alcohol and drugs(legal or not) is much more of a threat.
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