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Old 08-29-2011, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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Then say that, rather than lumping all us Seniors together. Soon you will be a senior, and then you'll have to deal with the age discrimination issue, something you don't have now. When you start to be discriminated simply on the basis of age, then you can talk to me about an anger issue. Until then......

A more realistic reference would be to require testing after age 75 when things often do seem to slow down. OR.... simple testing for reaction time, peripheral vision, or might be worthwhile for everyone after age 50.

Of course..... who is going to pay for this????
I have to say this again...the OP is not talking about "seniors" as in younger retirees around age 65 or 70, it specified VERY ELDERLY (as in age 80+). I think we are all getting brain fog.
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Old 08-29-2011, 06:52 PM
 
Location: California
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I'm not sure age is the defining factor. I am a better driver today than when I was going through a divorce twenty years ago. And, while I was working two jobs, one night after working too many long days in a row I stopped a stop sign and waited for it to turn green. Newsflash: stop signs don't turn green but it was time to work only one job.

Today, I really enjoy a train ride to the City so I don't have to worry about traffic or parking so the young ones can have at it on the freeway.
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Old 08-29-2011, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles>Little Rock>Houston>Little Rock
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Apparently my experiences with elderly drivers in my family make no difference to some posters. Perhaps 65 was too young for mandatory testing, although I would not balk at it myself. I would be willing to do it now or later, doesn't matter.

I sincerely apologize if I have offended any one, but I don't think referring to myself or my friends as 'geezer brains' is offensive.
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Old 08-29-2011, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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More age discrimination type comments, lumping everyone over a certain age into one category. I think its time we moved on to bashing teachers.

Its amazing that you come on here and be so "rational". Since I am a Senior, I find these kinds of comments offensive.
Of course it is age discrimination and it is perfectly legal. As long as the state can provide a "rational basis" for mandatory testing, it will pass constitutional muster. Why is it that pilots have a mandatory retirement age? Or judges? Those folks don't even have the opportunity to take a test before relinquishing their positions. They could be fit as a fiddle but are still required to retire. We are only discussing mandatory testing. Unlike the pilot or judge, you pass the test, you keep your license.
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Old 08-29-2011, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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In Australia once you reach 75yrs. of age you have to have a doctors check up and every year thereafter, balance, reflexes etc. and an eye test.
OMG, what if the US adopted that protocol? Da** socialist country! jk
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Old 08-29-2011, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Of course it is age discrimination and it is perfectly legal. As long as the state can provide a "rational basis" for mandatory testing, it will pass constitutional muster. Why is it that pilots have a mandatory retirement age? Or judges? Those folks don't even have the opportunity to take a test before relinquishing their positions. They could be fit as a fiddle but are still required to retire. We are only discussing mandatory testing. Unlike the pilot or judge, you pass the test, you keep your license.
A Supreme Court Judge has no legal retirement age.
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Old 08-29-2011, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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A Supreme Court Judge has no legal retirement age.
I know...but a Supreme Court Justice answers to no one but God.

Seriously, if you check it out, you'll find that there have been occasions when one of his brethren has given an elder Justice the "Come to Jesus talk". Justices are a special breed. Right, Moderate, or Left, they all know their work product is recorded for eternity.
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Old 08-29-2011, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Then say that, rather than lumping all us Seniors together. Soon you will be a senior, and then you'll have to deal with the age discrimination issue, something you don't have now. When you start to be discriminated simply on the basis of age, then you can talk to me about an anger issue. Until then...... When you go into a store to buy something, and the clerk doesn't have the item, and then tells you that Sears doesn't make that tool, and in a condescending way, says, "You'll be fine with that one....SIR" as if I'm too daft to know what I'm doing, when the reality is that the young clerk doesn't know that the larger Sears stores have multiple varieties of the tool...

A more realistic reference would be to require testing after age 75 when things often do seem to slow down. OR.... simple testing for reaction time, peripheral vision, or might be worthwhile for everyone after age 50.

Of course..... who is going to pay for this????

BTW, I also have a great sense of humor. Soon these things will happen to you. its especially galling when I know that if this young dude and I ran a race together I could run him into the ground.
Out of one side of your mouth you rant about age discrimination, then out of the other side of your mouth in the paragraph which I placed in bold above, you propose it. Which do you really believe? You say you have a great sense of humor; you must keep it well hidden on CD as I have never seen evidence of it in the many posts by you which I have read.
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Old 08-30-2011, 05:33 AM
 
Location: Bar Harbor, ME
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In Australia once you reach 75yrs. of age you have to have a doctors check up and every year thereafter, balance, reflexes etc. and an eye test.
I think that's far more reasonable than some arbitrary check by some young dude at the vehicle registration office.
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Old 08-30-2011, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Bar Harbor, ME
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Out of one side of your mouth you rant about age discrimination, then out of the other side of your mouth in the paragraph which I placed in bold above, you propose it. Which do you really believe? You say you have a great sense of humor; you must keep it well hidden on CD as I have never seen evidence of it in the many posts by you which I have read.
Please read the paragraphs again. I'm not against testing elderly people to make sure that their reaction times and peripheral vision are suitable for driving, or that they understand the rules. But 65 is not elderly. Heck, many jobs can work until they are 70 until they need permission from their employer to keep working.

I'm against across the board d@mning of a whole group of people simply because of an age barrier. And since I'm in the age where the discrimination takes place and have already experienced it, walk a few miles in my mocasins before you make such statements. But you will be walking them eventually. I'll be running along side of you in my running shoes while you do it in your hover-round.
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