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Old 05-05-2017, 08:37 AM
 
Location: ☀️ SWFL ⛱ 🌴
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50 degrees with rain today in NY. We sold the kayak and canoe on Craigslist. I had to give DH the do's and dont's for dealing with people from Craigslist. I sell things online on a fiber arts site which is pretty much honest people. Craigslist is another set of people and requires a bit more caution.

We are having big items hauled away this afternoon, a piano, china hutch and armoire, if the rain doesn't interfere. We're coming back in October for the semi-annual village bulk clean up day and will use that company to clean out the rest of the attic and basement after that.

We've put out many trash bags of stuff and garbage cans full twice this week and at least 10 trips to Goodwill. We are winding down now with one more planned trip to Goodwill with clothes.

For those who think you are being quite productive by partially downsizing now for a move, you are and I did too when it was just a matter of picking and choosing here and there. Getting down to the nitty gritty of getting rid of everything is another level and it's not easy. Emotionally more than physically for me, although my back is feeling it after four non-stop days and with three not so intense days to go. These are things I've lived with and seen for 32+ years. And a rainy day sure isn't lifting my mood.

It needs to be done and like anything else, once I'm on the other side, it will be better. Being in the midst of anything is unsettling, the beginning and end are always better.

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Old 05-05-2017, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Shake your head in disbelief department:

Here is a quote of a post in its entirety, made just hours ago in a hate thread in the Philosophy Forum:

"Well you can't deny that women are inherently loving and nurturing while men are inherently hateful and violent."
 
Old 05-05-2017, 10:07 AM
 
Location: middle tennessee
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50 degrees with rain today in NY. We sold the kayak and canoe on Craigslist. I had to give DH the do's and dont's for dealing with people from Craigslist. I sell things online on a fiber arts site which is pretty much honest people. Craigslist is another set of people and requires a bit more caution.

We are having big items hauled away this afternoon, a piano, china hutch and armoire, if the rain doesn't interfere. We're coming back in October for the semi-annual village bulk clean up day and will use that company to clean out the rest of the attic and basement after that.

We've put out many trash bags of stuff and garbage cans full twice this week and at least 10 trips to Goodwill. We are winding down now with one more planned trip to Goodwill with clothes.

For those who think you are being quite productive by partially downsizing now for a move, you are and I did too when it was just a matter of picking and choosing here and there. Getting down to the nitty gritty of getting rid of everything is another level and it's not easy. Emotionally more than physically for me, although my back is feeling it after four non-stop days and with three not so intense days to go. These are things I've lived with and seen for 32+ years. And a rainy day sure isn't lifting my mood.

It needs to be done and like anything else, once I'm on the other side, it will be better. Being in the midst of anything is unsettling, the beginning and end are always better.


You sound like you are making great progress, Jean, but be warned! I have been in my new "forever" place for several monthes and I am still getting rid of things. I do like living in my low clutter environment and haven't grieved the loss of any of my stuff yet.
 
Old 05-05-2017, 10:16 AM
 
Location: middle tennessee
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Shake your head in disbelief department:

Here is a quote of a post in its entirety, made just hours ago in a hate thread in the Philosophy Forum:

"Well you can't deny that women are inherently loving and nurturing while men are inherently hateful and violent."


I think the word "inherently" is wrong, and I would change "hateful and violent" to aggressive/protective.


but it's not just vitriol from a man hater It is perhaps outdated thinking. I haven't read the thread. Great Debates and Philosophy are, in my opinion, generally neither


calm down.
 
Old 05-05-2017, 10:53 AM
 
Location: ☀️ SWFL ⛱ 🌴
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You sound like you are making great progress, Jean, but be warned! I have been in my new "forever" place for several monthes and I am still getting rid of things. I do like living in my low clutter environment and haven't grieved the loss of any of my stuff yet.
I have no doubt some of the things I boxed up for the trip back to Fl will be discarded there. Separation happens by degrees. I love my uncluttered Fl house and hope to keep it that way.

I've routinely gone through the drawers and closets during the past 5 years there and pitch things that I don't know what to do with at the time and hence stick it somewhere out of sight. I had 32 years of doing it here in NY and I always told DH anything going to the attic or basement would never see the light of day again. That was fairly accurate.

People from other areas wring their hands at the thought of no basement or useable attic in FL. They just haven't realized the blessing it can be.
 
Old 05-05-2017, 11:05 AM
 
Location: ☀️ SWFL ⛱ 🌴
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Shake your head in disbelief department:

Here is a quote of a post in its entirety, made just hours ago in a hate thread in the Philosophy Forum:

"Well you can't deny that women are inherently loving and nurturing while men are inherently hateful and violent."

I have to be in the mood and gird my loins to venture into some of the other topic areas on C-D.

I find most threads are good for a page and then denigrate, if they are somewhat controversial.

The paranormal one I tend not to read when I'm home alone. I was an impressionable child that way and still am somewhat.

The self sufficency/frugal board has some level headed members and some that want so badly to live in their alternative reality.

The health board has some good info, but the no-sinner-like-an-old-sinner type that feels the need to convert everyone to holistic alternatives only, now that they've seen the light, tend to dominate it.

The caregiving group is sad, eye-opening and compassionate, but gets mired in martyrdom for some.

The Politics group, just no.

The House group again has have some good info but too many "I like this and hate that" which prompts someone else to say " but I hate this and like that".

I usually check in here and click on New Posts and browse for ones that catch my attention or interests. What I click on depends on my mood and how strong I feel. It takes major intestinal fortitude for some of these threads.

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Old 05-05-2017, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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I have to be in the mood and gird my loins to venture into some of the other topic areas on C-D.

I find most threads are good for a page and then denigrate, if they are somewhat controversial.

The paranormal one I tend not to read when I'm home alone. I was an impressionable child that way and still am somewhat.

The self sufficency/frugal board has some level headed members and some that want so badly to live in their alternative reality.

The health board has some good info, but the no-sinner-like-an-old-sinner type that feels the need to convert everyone to holistic alternatives only, now that they've seen the light, tend to dominate it.

The caregiving group is sad, eye-opening and compassionate, but gets mired in martyrdom for some.

The Politics group, just no.

The House group again has have some good info but too many "I like this and hate that" which prompts someone else to say " but I hate this and like that".

I usually check in here and click on New Posts and browse for ones that catch my attention or interests. What I click on depends on my mood and how strong I feel. It takes major intestinal fortitude for some of these threads.
I understand what you are saying and I agree with you almost completely. I don't know enough about the House Forum or the Caregiving Forum to comment, but I have no reason to disbelieve you. I don't read the Politics Forum either. Even here in the Retirement Forum, there are many threads I never even click on, but in this case more often because I know I won't be interested than because I think I will need to "gird my loins".
 
Old 05-05-2017, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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One problem I have with online communication is I can't determine whether a newish, off-the-wall poster is mentally ill, stupid, hateful or what. If the poster is mentally ill, then I understand where the remarks are coming from. Otherwise, I'm thinking WTF until I see a few more of his or her posts. Although the ignore button can be a godsend sometimes skipping threads is necessary.
 
Old 05-05-2017, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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One problem I have with online communication is I can't determine whether a newish, off-the-wall poster is mentally ill, stupid, hateful or what. If the poster is mentally ill, then I understand where the remarks are coming from. Otherwise, I'm thinking WTF until I see a few more of his or her posts. Although the ignore button can be a godsend sometimes skipping threads is necessary.

The poster whom I quoted a few posts earlier is the OP of the thread in question and that is the third similar thread she has started of which I am aware. (There could be others of which I am not aware). It is sometimes difficult to decide if someone is just a troll having fun by seeking to get people riled up, or is mentally ill, which would have to be the case to believe some of the vile, hostile, and hate-filled stuff that gets posted.
 
Old 05-05-2017, 03:29 PM
 
Location: WA
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Appreciate all the recent Posts here; as far as Caregiving Jean, sometimes I would feel like a martyr? after being in and out of hospitals for nearly 25 years with DH, my folks for a few years and raising 2 sons. Husband, disabled and functioned well though could not work outside the home. Hospital, doctors for him, my folks for a few years sorta became a routine. Now all are in Heaven, except my sons and do miss 'em all ! Sometimes one just gets tired !


Jean, thank you for sharing about your move; letting go of "stuff". More motivation for me. Escort Rider always enjoy your Posts. For me, fortunately, most folks here are helpful and when husband moved to Heaven, very caring.


Weather on the Olympic Peninsula, Thunder yesterday, lightening, as well as Seattle. Rare occurrence and made Seattle news. 2012, in July, though Major thunder and lightening if I recall in July, just a week of what would have been our 42nd wedding anniversary and 1st one without Bruce. Felt like he was sending me a gift from Heaven as he so enjoyed the shows !
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