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Old 06-19-2013, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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There are large numbers of illiterate folks in the country especially in the older age groups. There are lots of folks without transportation and a high enough level of functional competency and many of them have social workers and others helping them as often gets highlighted in threads. To top it off there is the prison/incarcerated population that while not eligible for SS are eligible for Medicare. There are a lot of unsophisticated folks who get captured in all of the negative data about finances, health etc etc. The following link is about folks in prison and their rights etc etc.
http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10133.pdf

Trying to find accurate numbers of the number of folks who are illiterate is a bit different from source to source.

If it is Medicare we probably can use 65 as a base year and ask how many folks were receiving a quality public education 50 years ago in varying parts of the country for those over 65 what about 60-80 years ago?
You can blame good deal of reading incomprehension on poor writers and editors. Most instructions and reports are written by organizational and grammatical morons, so you cannot blame the consumer.

At the journalism school we were taught to write to the 5th grade level—articles, information, news items, reports, brochures. Most people with higher education do not comprehend easily and retain, despite knowing how to read. Many CEOs are in that group and happily hire young savvy interns to write for them.
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Old 06-19-2013, 05:55 PM
 
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If I'm off track, I apologize. My daughter works at a middle school in an inner city. The majority of her students might be able to read at the 3rd grade level. The teachers are told to pass the students onto the next grade level (high school) regardless of their failing grades and inability to read.
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Old 06-19-2013, 06:09 PM
 
Location: too far from the sea
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Looks like a lot of the illiteracy is in the younger people. (It's sort of obvious if you read what they write here on CD--and these are the more literate ones.) Fifty years ago loads of people went to college --we had the 60s with the college kids. Even the kids who got drafted came back and went to college (if they survived. )
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Old 06-20-2013, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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Not to change the subject, but I just read this and find it sobering:

Nearly 40 percent of U.S. adults act as caregivers for loved one - CBS News
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Old 06-20-2013, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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A new thread in the Psychology Forum is "How to deal with people consumed by bitterness?". How indeed, other than disengaging from them? It sure can get wearying, even for someone like me who has often counseled growing a thicker skin. Bashing of an entire state in crude, generalized language. Male bashing, and in a Fathers' Day thread no less! Bashing of dentists in the Dental Health sub-forum. Bashing of automobile drivers in the Urban Planning Forum. It wears one down after a while.

The upside, if one can call it that, is that the bashing and the bitterness make us value even more the people who are overflowing with kindness and good will, like our dear Anifani and a number of others right here in the Retirement Forum.

It takes all kinds to make the world.

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Old 06-21-2013, 04:45 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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Just got in from kayaking this morning. Couldn't believe how many bald eagles we saw! It used to be we never saw eagles. Then last year I saw my first one and was thrilled--thought it was a rare event. Now I see them almost every time I go out, and today we saw 4-5.
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Old 06-21-2013, 05:59 AM
 
Location: State of Being
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A new thread in the Psychology Forum is "How to deal with people consumed by bitterness?". How indeed, other than disengaging from them? It sure can get wearying, even for someone like me who has often counseled growing a thicker skin. Bashing of an entire state in crude, generalized language. Male bashing, and in a Fathers' Day thread no less! Bashing of dentists in the Dental Health sub-forum. Bashing of automobile drivers in the Urban Planning Forum. It wears one down after a while.

The upside, if one can call it that, is that the bashing and the bitterness make us value even more the people who are overflowing with kindness and good will, like our dear Anifani and a number of others right here in the Retirement Forum.

It takes all kinds to make the world.
It does wear one down.

I have a friend who started a diet that we had heard discussed on Dr. Oz. I also downloaded the book. It seems to be a very reasonable diet to follow. It is not what I would call a "fad diet" - unless folks think South Beach and Atkins are "fads."

Now, I have been on a diet one time in my life -- when I had gestational diabetes and it was more or less a guideline. I worked w/ a nutritionist and came up with something simple I could follow. I don't like having "choices." Just tell me what a meal needs to consist of and that way I don't have to spend a lot of time thinking about it. If I can have a boiled egg, half an orange, coffee with cream, 1/2 piece of whole wheat toast and 1 slice of bacon . . . tell me, and I will eat that every morning, lol. That is just me.

I followed the "diet" exactly, got my blood sugar issues under control immediately, and delivered a healthy little boy.

To me, a guideline that lists exactly what I can eat for each meal is the perfect solution. I love to cook and left to my own devices, the carbs go up! So my friend found this "diet" and I thought - why not check it out.

So . . . I ventured to the Diet and Weight Loss section and found that exact diet had been mentioned in a thread . . . and I tagged on and asked -- what experiences have folks had with the diet (and especially interested in maintenance). Oh My Goodness. The responses I got were essentially - "you are stupid for following fad diets. Give it up, dummy. It is hard to lose weight" and the one that really chapped me: "Stop looking for a magic pill." This, from people who had never even read the diet, much less tried it.

This is what I get so often when I go into another area of C-D and ask a legit question. There is simply no reason for folks to be so rude, dismissive, presumptive and condescending!

Okay, that's my rant for the day, lol.

And yes, I think I will start the "diet" next week. My friend has been on it since April and has gone down two dress sizes. She is about my age. I need to lose 3 dress sizes! This is no fad diet - it is just a low carb diet and carbs are my downfall!

I think Weight Watchers is a great idea but there are too many choices. For most folks, I think they like that. For me, I just want to know that I can eat xx items at each meal and that's that. I hate the thought of giving up my pastries for the rest of my life, but I have learned that I maintain my weight just fine as long as I run from bread. Once I lose the weight I need to dump, I am going to have to face that pastries and breads are just not something I can indulge in very often. For a person who loves sandwiches . . . this is sad!!!!

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Old 06-21-2013, 06:06 AM
 
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It does wear one down.

I have a friend who started a diet that we had heard discussed on Dr. Oz. I also downloaded the book. It seems to be a very reasonable diet to follow. It is not what I would call a "fad diet" - unless folks think South Beach and Atkins are "fads."

Now, I have been on a diet one time in my life -- when I had gestational diabetes and it was more or less a guideline. I worked w/ an nutritionist and came up with something simple I could follow. I don't like having "choices." Just tell me what a meal needs to consist of and that way I don't have to spend a lot of time thinking about it. If I can have a boiled egg, half an orange, coffee with cream, 1/2 piece of whole wheat toast and 1 slice of bacon . . . tell me, and I will eat that every morning, lol. That is just me.

I followed the "diet" exactly, got my blood sugar issues under control immediately, and delivered a healthy little boy.

To me, a guideline that lists exactly what I can eat for each meal is the perfect solution. I love to cook and left to my own devices, the carbs go up! So my friend found this "diet" and I thought - why not check it out.

So . . . I ventured to the Diet and Weight Loss section and found that exact diet had been mentioned in a thread . . . and I tagged on and asked -- what experiences have folks had with the diet (and especially interested in maintenance). Oh My Goodness. The responses I got were essentially - "you are stupid for following fad diets. Give it up, dummy. It is hard to lose weight" and the one that really chapped me: "Stop looking for a magic pill." This, from people who had never even read the diet, much less tried it.

This is what I get so often when I go into another area of C-D and ask a legit question. There is simply no reason for folks to be so rude, dismissive, presumptive and condescending!

Okay, that's my rant for the day, lol.

And yes, I think I will start the "diet" next week. My friend has been on it since April and has gone down two dress sizes. She is about my age. I need to lose 3 dress sizes! This is no fad diet - it is just a low carb diet and carbs are my downfall!

I think Weight Watchers is a great idea but there are too many choices. For most folks, I think they like that. For me, I just want to know that I can eat xx items at each meal and that's that. I hate the thought of giving up my pastries for the rest of my life, but I have learned that I maintain my weight just fine as long as I run from bread. Once I lose the weight I need to dump, I am going to have to face that pastries and breads are just not something I can indulge in very often. For a person who loves sandwiches . . . this is sad!!!!
A suggestion if you use a smart phone or tablet is the app My Fitness Pal. It is perfect for weight maintenance in any direction and nutrition monitoring. It is very possible and helps you to have balanced nutrition days every day. You can enter the food you eat and your exercise along with lifestyle and it gives you daily goals you can monitor for calories nutrition etc along with weekly and longer term goals
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Old 06-21-2013, 06:10 AM
 
Location: Near a river
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And yes, I think I will start the "diet" next week. My friend has been on it since April and has gone down two dress sizes. She is about my age. I need to lose 3 dress sizes! This is no fad diet - it is just a low carb diet and carbs are my downfall!

I think Weight Watchers is a great idea but there are too many choices. For most folks, I think they like that. For me, I just want to know that I can eat xx items at each meal and that's that. I hate the thought of giving up my pastries for the rest of my life, but I have learned that I maintain my weight just fine as long as I run from bread. Once I lose the weight I need to dump, I am going to have to face that pastries and breads are just not something I can indulge in very often. For a person who loves sandwiches . . . this is sad!!!!
Ani, read the book Wheat Belly (not a great title, but the book is great). You will find out why modern wheat has such a terrible effect on our health. Me, I refuse to give up scones and the like. I make delicious treats out of almond meal, brown rice flour, cooked quinoa, and other natural ingredients. In fact, I'm eating one of my yummy muffins right now. Also, beware of the "carbohydrate" misunderstanding. There are bad carbs (white rice, potato, white flour products, etc) and good carbs (whole grains besides wheat). The good carbs, in moderation, are not the enemy.That said, a lot of Whole Foods-goers are overweight because we assume that the pastries and breads sold there are good for you. Not so!

ETA #1: Dr Oz is on the no-carb bandwagon and making his fame with that. There are many other M.D.s and cardiologists who endorse a healthy balanced diet with whole grains.

ETA #2: Yes, it is a struggle, with so much conflicting info and the "media doctors"!
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Old 06-21-2013, 06:10 AM
 
Location: State of Being
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A suggestion if you use a smart phone or tablet is the app My Fitness Pal. It is perfect for weight maintenance in any direction and nutrition monitoring. It is very possible and helps you to have balanced nutrition days every day. You can enter the food you eat and your exercise along with lifestyle and it gives you daily goals you can monitor for calories nutrition etc along with weekly and longer term goals
I have heard about this app before but forgot to download it. I will def check it out - right now! Thank you for the suggestion, Tuborg!
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