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Old 02-09-2018, 07:14 PM
 
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I read somewhere that approximately 10,000 people a day are retiring. 10% going to Florida?

Here 'tis.

https://www.google.com/search?source....0.Rw0RTQOaTp0

 
Old 02-09-2018, 07:27 PM
 
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I am just curious. How was that number arrived at? 1,000 new people in FL per day. 365,000 per year.
It was arrived at by the U.S. Census:

Florida population grew by 367,525 people in 2016, to 20,612,439 million, the second largest gain in sheer numbers after Texas, according to new U.S. Census numbers.

Florida continues to outdistance New York as the third largest state in the nation. Compared to Florida’s gain, the Empire State lost almost 2,000 people from July 1, 2015, to July 1, 2016, according to the new estimates. New York’s total population slipped to 19,745,289.


Florida population continues to outdistance New York - Orlando Sentinel
 
Old 02-10-2018, 07:30 AM
 
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I read somewhere that approximately 10,000 people a day are retiring. 10% going to Florida?

Here 'tis.

https://www.google.com/search?source....0.Rw0RTQOaTp0
So what are the implications for Florida's Medicaid costs down the road with so many seniors retiring there and perhaps needing nursing home care without the ability to pay?
 
Old 02-10-2018, 07:50 AM
 
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I don't know. People always seem to think growth is the greatest thing ever and everyone wants it. But once you are on that treadmill you can't get off. You need more people to pay for everything they need PLUS. The need to generate electricity, lots of sewage, lots of water, lots of roads. People complain about health care in FL now.

With that kind of population density even a minor disaster turns into a major disaster. No electricity means no A/C. I'm surprised they haven't gotten behind and ended up in rolling brownouts during the summer.

It will be a popular destination because of sun and warmth but right now its also taxes. Eventually I would think they are going to have to have some sort of tax?

P.S. I was at the Kennedy Space Visitor Center during the launch. Actually that is pretty far away without a very good view but I love the space program and it was great to see.
 
Old 02-10-2018, 02:31 PM
 
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I don't know. People always seem to think growth is the greatest thing ever and everyone wants it. But once you are on that treadmill you can't get off. You need more people to pay for everything they need PLUS. The need to generate electricity, lots of sewage, lots of water, lots of roads. People complain about health care in FL now.

With that kind of population density even a minor disaster turns into a major disaster. No electricity means no A/C. I'm surprised they haven't gotten behind and ended up in rolling brownouts during the summer.

It will be a popular destination because of sun and warmth but right now its also taxes. Eventually I would think they are going to have to have some sort of tax?

P.S. I was at the Kennedy Space Visitor Center during the launch. Actually that is pretty far away without a very good view but I love the space program and it was great to see.

There's a big difference between population and population density. People forget just how big Florida is. When you divide the land mass by the number of people, it turns out that Florida isn't that dense, population-wise. In fact, it's population density of 378 people per square mile is less than half the population density of New Jersey (1,218/sq. mile), Rhode Island (1,021/sq. mile), Massachusetts (871), and Connecticut (741). It's also much lower than Maryland (618), Delaware (485), and the State of New York (420).

So while Florida ranks third in terms of population behind only California and Texas, it is only the 8th highest state in terms of population density.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...lation_density
 
Old 02-10-2018, 04:43 PM
 
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True, but it has a lot of bigger cities. When the power goes out it gets hairy fast and takes a LOT of government support to get it back on track and its harder for govt to get in and reach everyone.
 
Old 02-10-2018, 06:06 PM
 
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True, but it has a lot of bigger cities. When the power goes out it gets hairy fast and takes a LOT of government support to get it back on track and its harder for govt to get in and reach everyone.
I'm really not sure at all what you're trying to say here. "Government" isn't really involved at all at getting the power back on; that's strictly FPL and whatever resources they can get from other power companies outside of the state and around the country. FPL pays for these workers lodging, salary, and overtime, not the government. Here's an article about the 50,000 power workers who came to Florida to help restore power in the wake of Hurricane Irma.

https://www.bna.com/50000-utility-workers-n57982087838/
 
Old 02-10-2018, 10:02 PM
 
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If I lived in Florida I would have a whole house generator that comes on automatically if power goes out.
 
Old 02-11-2018, 05:21 AM
 
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MMofB, initial comments re electricity/ac were more directed at FPL etc for building/generating for the increasing need. Later comment re govt was more disaster support like FEMA, other emergency services including charities.

Tek Freek - generators run on gas. Power goes out so do pumps. So unless you can find and get some sort of natural gas line to your house I guess you would have to store extra gas at your house?
 
Old 02-11-2018, 05:28 AM
 
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MMofB, initial comments re electricity/ac were more directed at FPL etc for building/generating for the increasing need. Later comment re govt was more disaster support like FEMA, other emergency services including charities.

Tek Freek - generators run on gas. Power goes out so do pumps. So unless you can find and get some sort of natural gas line to your house I guess you would have to store extra gas at your house?
People in New England have generators for the winter outages. No heat--you could freeze to death. And it's usually nice to have lights and to be able to cook. I never had a generator and now I'm wondering how they work. We did have some large battery operated thing that helped with the lighting so we didn't have to rely on candles. Where does a generator get its power though?
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