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Old 01-18-2014, 11:18 AM
 
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When I sold our MN dairy farm to my son ( and relocated 870 miles south to a milder 4 season climate ) the locals in Minnesota all told me.............." what you save on your heating bill will not compensate for your high cooling bill "

BALONEY !

In MN winters, I would go thru 220 gallons of furnace heating oil every 6 weeks.( over $400 per month )

In 2012 we had a very hot summer down here in the Ozarks of Arkansas ( several days over 100 ) and my highest electric bill in the summer was $126

Even my son couldn't afford the high cost of heating the farm house and installed an outside wood boiler immediately after buying the farm from me.

Cold winters, High heating costs, and high taxes made moving out of Minnesota in retirement a good idea.

 
Old 01-18-2014, 12:15 PM
 
Location: SoCal desert
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It was 20 years ago today and I'll never forget it.
Yes, we always remember.

February 1971
October 1987
April 1992
June 1992 (2 of them!)

The newspeople like to talk about the San Andreas Fault - people don't realize that the most active fault is the San Jacinto Fault in Southern California, not the San Andreas.
 
Old 01-18-2014, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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The newspeople like to talk about the San Andreas Fault - people don't realize that the most active fault is the San Jacinto Fault in Southern California, not the San Andreas.
Isn't there a San Bernardino fault, or is that the same as SA?
 
Old 01-18-2014, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Yes, we always remember.

February 1971
October 1987
April 1992
June 1992 (2 of them!)

The newspeople like to talk about the San Andreas Fault - people don't realize that the most active fault is the San Jacinto Fault in Southern California, not the San Andreas.
Three out of those four were quite forgettable for me, although yes, I do remember them, but I don't think of them as significant events. (It depends on where one is in Southern California whether the shaking is strong enough to be memorable.)

The one which was not forgettable was the Sylmar quake in February of 1971. So in the 51 years I have lived in Southern Calif. I have experienced two quakes strong enough that I would call them genuinely scary: Sylmar in 1971 and Northridge in 1994. Fortunately I suffered no property damage or personal injury in either one.
 
Old 01-18-2014, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Table Rock Lake
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Three out of those four were quite forgettable for me, although yes, I do remember them, but I don't think of them as significant events. (It depends on where one is in Southern California whether the shaking is strong enough to be memorable.)

The one which was not forgettable was the Sylmar quake in February of 1971. So in the 51 years I have lived in Southern Calif. I have experienced two quakes strong enough that I would call them genuinely scary: Sylmar in 1971 and Northridge in 1994. Fortunately I suffered no property damage or personal injury in either one.
I don't recall much ill effects from the California earthquakes. It was the Alaskian earthquake in 1964 that turned our deepist water well muddy for a couple of weeks in SW Missouri. If it had any effects to our New Madrid fault line, there was not much mentioned at the time. Our two shallower wells had no ill effects what so ever. JMO
 
Old 01-18-2014, 04:15 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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In MN winters, I would go thru 220 gallons of furnace heating oil every 6 weeks.( over $400 per month )
I wish it only cost me $400 a month to heat my house.

On the 3rd of January, the oil company pumped something like 200 gallons in my 225 gallon tank (it's in the basement). The bill was over $685! It will last exactly one month by my calculations, and will call the company to make another delivery the very first week of Feb. Mind you, the house is three stories and has six bedrooms.

This winter, being colder than last winter, appears to be contributing to my higher costs.
 
Old 01-18-2014, 04:21 PM
 
Location: UpstateNY
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That house is huge! Are there any zones that don't need to be heated?
 
Old 01-18-2014, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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I wish it only cost me $400 a month to heat my house.

On the 3rd of January, the oil company pumped something like 200 gallons in my 225 gallon tank (it's in the basement). The bill was over $685! It will last exactly one month by my calculations, and will call the company to make another delivery the very first week of Feb. Mind you, the house is three stories and has six bedrooms.

This winter, being colder than last winter, appears to be contributing to my higher costs.
With your high ceilings, it may help to mount several tiny fans on the ceilings (the electric kind you mount in doorways to move wood heat from room to room) in each room, since heat rises.

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Old 01-18-2014, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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I don't recall much ill effects from the California earthquakes. It was the Alaskian earthquake in 1964 that turned our deepist water well muddy for a couple of weeks in SW Missouri. If it had any effects to our New Madrid fault line, there was not much mentioned at the time. Our two shallower wells had no ill effects what so ever. JMO
I'll help your memory. Northridge, 1994: A couple of freeway overpasses completely down - lucky it was in the pre-dawn darkness and relatively little traffic. One apartment building first floor collapsed and the upper stories (intact) pancaked down into the collapsed first floor. MANY residences and businesses condemned - red tagged, so occupancy was not legal. Entire Los Angeles basin went black - no power anywhere unless there were generators. Some areas without electricity for five or six days. Total deaths: 60.

Sylmar, 1971: One hospital under construction collapsed - good thing no patients were in there. At least one freeway overpass down. Many buildings severely damaged. There were deaths, but I don't remember how many - something on the same order of magnitude as the Northridge quake, perhaps somewhat fewer.
 
Old 01-19-2014, 06:13 AM
 
Location: Near a river
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Not to change the subject, but I'm posting this here instead of in "Politics and Other Controversies" as this reality is going to affect seniors in a big way in coming years. Maybe the "healthcare" system should be looked at through this lens. Not many seem to want to focus on it though.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/19/he...r.html?hp&_r=0
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