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Old 11-03-2011, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Northern Colorado
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Actually, my wife's mom got into an accident (hit by a guy), when we lived in Colorado. She was fine, but decided right then and there, at age 84, that she'd had enough of driving and turned in here DL. She started using a Senior Bus for going to the store, etc. and having my wife's two sisters take her places as well. Her decision sure made all of the family feel better!

 
Old 11-03-2011, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Texas
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If it wasn't for old people you would be buying Russian war bonds get a life .We all have one thing in common we all get old.One day that will be you going 20 in a 40 zone.
It's possible, but doubtful. I've driven fast all my life and if the day comes when I can't do that any more, I'll park it for good. Not because I'm afraid for me, but because I just don't like to treat others as if they don't exist.

You see, when it comes right down to it, the problem isn't the speed older folks often drive, it's their lack of consideration for others.

...By the way....my goal is to be like my late friend J.T. When he was about 80 or so, he left the road upside down at 75 mph and struck a telephone pole, walking away virtually uninjured. J.T. didn't know how to poke along. Yet, one day he just parked his car and announced he'd never drive again. And, he didn't. Why? Because he panicked once backing out of his parking place at church and hit the gas instead of the brakes when some kids ran out behind him. Nobody was hurt because all he did was spin the tires in gravel, but he had enough sense to know that's it. Time to quit.
 
Old 11-04-2011, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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You should, it's the law.[/quote}

Yes I know it's the law but more important it's just common sense to stop.
And Starve?
How do you get your groceries, medicine, other neccessities?
 
Old 11-05-2011, 12:37 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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And Starve?
How do you get your groceries, medicine, other neccessities?
Like all the other old people do who are a menace on the road and could kill many people at one time. You call Social Services or Elder Services. You arrange for delivery of your groceries (some stores do), or ask a neighbor/friend/volunteer to take you to the store, doctor, etc. We have agencies in our city which have volunteers who do this. Also church and senior citizen groups are good contacts. Neighborhood associations, as well. Lots of people not working these days and are available to help. We know who the elderly are in our neighborhood. One or another of us is available to help w/snow, shopping, doctors or whatever.

Don't think the groceries or medicine are going to be worth much if by getting them, in the process, you kill or maim someone.

Elderly (mid 80's) neighbor many years ago ran over and killed a young child backing his car out of the garage. Of course, he died shortly thereafter, as well. Who could live with this? I couldn't.
 
Old 11-05-2011, 04:32 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Like all the other old people do who are a menace on the road and could kill many people at one time. You call Social Services or Elder Services. You arrange for delivery of your groceries (some stores do), or ask a neighbor/friend/volunteer to take you to the store, doctor, etc. We have agencies in our city which have volunteers who do this. Also church and senior citizen groups are good contacts. Neighborhood associations, as well. Lots of people not working these days and are available to help. We know who the elderly are in our neighborhood. One or another of us is available to help w/snow, shopping, doctors or whatever.

Don't think the groceries or medicine are going to be worth much if by getting them, in the process, you kill or maim someone.

Elderly (mid 80's) neighbor many years ago ran over and killed a young child backing his car out of the garage. Of course, he died shortly thereafter, as well. Who could live with this? I couldn't.

Giving up one's independence and mobility isn't easy, but at some point it usually becomes necessary, whether we like it or not. When that point comes, there are other options, which you've done a good job of illustrating. The only thing required is enough concern for others to implement such a change in lifestyle.

But, there are far too many elderly who don't really care about anyone else. Like little children, their only concern is for themselves. Those are the ones who tie up traffic and make no effort to aid those behind them by periodically getting out of the way. They are the ones who keep driving, in spite of their own fears and limitations, the ones who endanger the lives and property of others and who seem to think the world owes them something because they've managed to live a long time. Those are the ones who WON'T voluntarily give up driving simply because they don't have to.

That's when the family needs to step in and do something to prevent them from driving. For instance, my grand father in-law's kids would disable his car to keep him off the road. At the same time, they made themselves available to take him wherever he wanted to go. He resented it, but eventually capitulated before he killed someone. There are other strategies as well which I hope my kids use on me if I ever reach that point.
 
Old 11-05-2011, 06:54 AM
 
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I agree, giving up driving will often become necessary. Unfortunately, not every community has resources in place to help the person, and not every senior has family who can put the brakes on, so to speak. I have also seen cases where the families live across the country and don't truly understand how much their parent has deteriorated, with regards to driving, until the parent is involved in a crash.

I love the idea of the neighborhood organization pitching in to help these folks; but again, not every neighborhood is the type where an organization would be successful. Sadly, in the largest city in my general area, members of such 'organizations' would be just as likely to rob the senior as they would be to help him.

I don't disagree with mandatory retesting at certain ages, but along with that there need to be other options in place for the seniors. Heck, I would love to see stricter driving tests for teenagers, too, but that's a whole other thread & forum, lol!
 
Old 11-05-2011, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Like all the other old people do who are a menace on the road and could kill many people at one time. You call Social Services or Elder Services. You arrange for delivery of your groceries (some stores do), or ask a neighbor/friend/volunteer to take you to the store, doctor, etc. We have agencies in our city which have volunteers who do this. Also church and senior citizen groups are good contacts. Neighborhood associations, as well. Lots of people not working these days and are available to help. We know who the elderly are in our neighborhood. One or another of us is available to help w/snow, shopping, doctors or whatever.

Don't think the groceries or medicine are going to be worth much if by getting them, in the process, you kill or maim someone.

Elderly (mid 80's) neighbor many years ago ran over and killed a young child backing his car out of the garage. Of course, he died shortly thereafter, as well. Who could live with this? I couldn't.
My comment was meant to underline the fact that develpers and city planners have been creating this situation for decades. There are no corner stores within walking distance, everything is geared toward driving everytime you need a quart of milk or a lottery ticket. Politicians took the money from the Big Boxes and left us in this position. Now with the baby boom reaching old age we find ourselves screwed again. With 30% of the population getting elderly who will shuttle them about?
 
Old 11-06-2011, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Smile I remember this!!

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Yeah.. I remember the lady who was trapped in her car for a week IIRC down in FL. Lucky for her it rained enough for her to get some water.

I know I sometime travel the back roads and you do have to think about the what ifs
About 30 minutes from me! It's been over 10 years - they did an interview a few years back - still spunky! Her first name was Tootie, I remember that!

The car flew off the expressway and fell into some trees. I think she was there a week at least.
 
Old 11-11-2011, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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About 30 minutes from me! It's been over 10 years - they did an interview a few years back - still spunky! Her first name was Tootie, I remember that!

The car flew off the expressway and fell into some trees. I think she was there a week at least.
I don't remember that, but it is quite fascinating. I take it she was elderly and therefore not agile enough to get herself out of the car and climb down the tree? Or was she injured to the point where she couldn't? Or was the car tweaked to the point where doors and windows would not open? It seems to me that in a week's time I would have figured out something (breaking out a window by kicking it out, or something).
 
Old 11-11-2011, 03:17 PM
 
Location: SoCal desert
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Escort Rider, you have to have seen this at the end of September ...

A 67-year-old man has been found alive near his car — 200 feet off the side of a mountain road — six days after he disappeared.
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