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Old 05-03-2014, 06:19 AM
 
Location: State of Being
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I can't blame any of the NC natives for feeling resentful about this. So much of the state's beauty is being plowed over for housing. I read about how the grocery stores aren't the same as where they came from. I went to Lowe's and thought it was great. Interesting how when one of the realtors was talking about a grocery store being built and when I asked which one everyone in the room just "tightened" up - you could feel it. I don't care which grocery stores are there and I sure don't expect any from this area to be there (except Trader Joe's & Whole Foods which are already in NC).

My point: not only are they moving in in droves but are already making demands - a good way to alienate yourself.

This same thing happened to CO and the natives aren't happy there either. Tell them all to move to MN
And therein is the key to how well folks will assimilate into an area . . . the "disgruntlement" factor and the "That's not the way we did it back home" syndrome.

This would be true anywhere . . . no one wants to find themselves a minority in an area where their families have been established since the 1700s -- and suddenly, life changes b/c acres and acres of pasture land (and pastoral vistas!) vanishes as subdivision upon subdivision are established -- traffic patterns change -- schools become crowded -- and taxes go up! And all the while, there are the complaints - "No good food here" . . . "where is XX store? I miss XX" . . . "everyone here is a hick" . . . etc etc etc.

That doesn't always happen but it happens. Thus, the "them against us" syndrome (and it is REAL! People can be very mean-spirited, both the newcomers and the natives).

Having lived in other parts of the country, I learned early on how distressing it can be when one moves and familiar things are no more! However, that is not something I would ever vocalize (as a newcomer) as that IS the point . . . one moves with the expectation that few things will be the same. It's not just a matter of finding a new hair stylist/barber, school, grocery store, restaurants, retail shops . . . lifestyle, traditions, culture, speech/accents, media -- it all is foreign. Moving to another state can be like moving to a different country, depending on where a person lived previously. And that can be a plus or a minus, but it should never be a big SURPRISE. I think a lot of folks have never lived anywhere but one area their entire lives and so just assumed their corner of the world is representative of EVERYONE's community, everywhere. Nothing could be more incorrect! I have found huge differences in lifestyle, amenities, culture, tradition, healthcare, etc from one town to another, in every state where I have lived (or spent a lot of time).

Folks on this forum are more savvy about regional differences, seems to me, than the average person "out there." But I am constantly "smacking my head" about how uninformed people are about the area they have decided to move to! What the heck?
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Old 05-03-2014, 06:30 AM
 
Location: State of Being
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Hi Ani! The situation in North Carolina reminds me of California in 1958 when I first moved here at the age of 14; most people seemed to be transplants, not natives. Of course by now that situation has changed and there are plenty of California-born folks.
I have always been enthralled with the history of California. The country's westward movement (Manifest Destiny!) became a fascination for me as a child. What fun when I moved to Kansas City and was able to re-trace the steps of settlers (some, my own relatives!) who left to homestead in the midwest in the 19th Century. And then that further westward movement . . . the Gold Rush . . .

Hollywood's Golden Era . . . then Silicon Valley.

I grew up researching writers and the great newspapers . . . Sacramento Bee!

And of course, the Dust Bowl era and the migration west . . . John Steinbeck.

California is such an historically rich state. Once I got to spend some real time there, I became fascinated with the Missions and Spanish influence (and now, the modern "repatriation" of the state!)

Okay - here is something totally off the wall. I first read "Gone With the Wind" at age 12. Of course, I was captivated. It became a ritual to re-read the novel every summer, and I continued doing that until I got too tied up with summer classes in college to take time to read anything other than assigned books. I took up the annual ritual again after grad school . . . and along the way, I created my own plot regarding what occurred next in Scarlett's life.

She moved to St. Louis . . .and then on to California! lol
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Old 05-03-2014, 06:45 AM
 
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Hi Ani! The situation in North Carolina reminds me of California in 1958 when I first moved here at the age of 14; most people seemed to be transplants, not natives. Of course by now that situation has changed and there are plenty of California-born folks.
I was thinking the same thing. I was born in CA in 1957 and grew up there, and almost everyone I knew (including my parents) were transplants. I remember people often joking they didn't think there were any natives in the state.
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Old 05-03-2014, 07:08 AM
 
Location: State of Being
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One of the best posts (humorous, tongue-in-cheek) ever written on C-D!!! Scroll down - read JAY's post. Brilliant! I am still smiling.

How do you find out if the house you are buying is not spooky?
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Old 05-03-2014, 07:44 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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Hi Ani! The situation in North Carolina reminds me of California in 1958 when I first moved here at the age of 14; most people seemed to be transplants, not natives. Of course by now that situation has changed and there are plenty of California-born folks.
Latecomer! There were a few of us natives around in 1958. I wasn't one of them but returned to CA from Virginia (military brat) in 1959 at the age of 13. While there may be a lot of natives now there are also hordes of immigrants both from other states and other countries. As a consequence, Californication has hit a number of places; most notably Oregon, Washington, North Carolina, and even ::::shudder:::: Texas. Interestingly enough, I had considered two of those - OR and NC - for retirement at one time but ultimately decided that the parts I liked had too many Californians in them already and nice guy that I am I wanted to spare them another two CA natives.

It's a brave new world!
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Old 05-03-2014, 07:47 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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She moved to St. Louis . . .and then on to California! lol
Uh oh! We did it backwards. We went from CA to Missouri where our wagon broke down and we got stuck in the Ozarks. Thank goodness! .
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Old 05-03-2014, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Verde Valley AZ
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Open your homepage another day and you'll probably find an article that rates NC first and Wyoming last.
I know. Those ratings change all the time. I just thought it was an interesting article.
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Old 05-03-2014, 08:31 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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I know. Those ratings change all the time. I just thought it was an interesting article.
I'm sure it was interesting and quite right if all you're concerned with is COL vs. QOL. I'm afraid that the weather would literally freeze us out but all three states decidedly have their charms when the weather is decent. Chief among them, for me, would be wide open spaces and low populations although the latter is in the process of changing with the fracking. As a complete and utter retiree, job opportunities do not intrigue me. But never say never, right?
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Old 05-03-2014, 09:02 AM
 
Location: State of Being
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Uh oh! We did it backwards. We went from CA to Missouri where our wagon broke down and we got stuck in the Ozarks. Thank goodness! .
I think your wagon knew that was an excellent spot for homesteading, my friend!
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Old 05-03-2014, 10:16 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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I think your wagon knew that was an excellent spot for homesteading, my friend!
Whew! I'm so relieved!
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