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Old 01-23-2015, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Prescott AZ
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I want you ALL, every last one to come to my house for Superbowl so we can have a great big laugh in !

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Old 01-23-2015, 10:10 AM
 
Location: middle tennessee
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I'm packing now.
 
Old 01-23-2015, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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I don't remember specific jokes, nor do I want to. I just remember hating to watch I Love Lucy because she made herself out to be such a childish character. I do get that she was playing a 'class clown' character, and was really a talented comedienne, but I always thought she didn't do herself any favors. And I didn't like that it promoted thinking of women, in general, in such a light. I always wished that when Ricky would get up in her face and demand, "Lucy, you got some 'splaining to do", that she would get right back up in his and retort, "No, actually, I don't!"

In general, women in that era were not thought of as intelligent and productive members of society ... just as "housekeepers". The movie that clarified it for me was The Women's Room: The Women's Room (TV Movie 1980) - IMDb
The whole 1950s era pigeonholed women as belonging "all or mostly" in the home, getting married and having kids, while hubby went out to work and brought home the bacon. Women weren't supposed to stand up to their spouses, and their opinions and smarts were generally not valued nearly as much as those of their male counterparts. This was in good part responsible for the backlash in the 1960s and 70s, when women rose up against the stereotypes. Ricky Ricardo's eye-rolling at Lucy, and Ralph Kramden's threatening fist-in-palm at wife Alice, were funny at the time and endearing over the decades of remembrance, but in truth impeded progress of women toward equality.
 
Old 01-24-2015, 01:36 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Can't remember what George Burns and Gracie Allen's show was called, but the discussion caused me to remember it. And if my memory is accurate, Gracie Allen played an airhead toward whom George Burns was condescending. They had good writers and the show was very funny, but it did play into the stereotype being talked about here.

Of course the three stooges were all men. However, when men and women were paired in comedy, the women often came out looking none too bright.

The 1950's were a different world. Remember the employment ads in the newspapers? (Jobs offered by gender). Remember manual typewriters and carbon paper? Remember cars which had no air conditioning? Remember homes with one bathroom in which entire families including children lived? Remember pay phones? Remember seeing someone off on an airline flight and being able to actually get on the plane with the passenger to chat until the announcement was made for non-passengers to deplane? Remember drinking fountains in the south with signs designating them for "white" and "colored"? Remember kids playing in the neighborhood after dark with absolutely no fear? Remember people smoking in restaurants and on airplanes?

Some things were worse and some things were better. And a lot of us in this Retirement Forum are old enough to have those personal memories.
 
Old 01-24-2015, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Near a river
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The 1950's were a different world. Remember the employment ads in the newspapers? (Jobs offered by gender). Remember manual typewriters and carbon paper? Remember cars which had no air conditioning? Remember homes with one bathroom in which entire families including children lived? Remember pay phones? Remember seeing someone off on an airline flight and being able to actually get on the plane with the passenger to chat until the announcement was made for non-passengers to deplane? Remember drinking fountains in the south with signs designating them for "white" and "colored"? Remember kids playing in the neighborhood after dark with absolutely no fear? Remember people smoking in restaurants and on airplanes?
Wow, yes.
 
Old 01-24-2015, 11:15 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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And food! Talk about limited selections and brands. Produce departments carried the basics but other than lettuces there we few varieties in fruits, greens and tubers. There were certainly few, if any, imported or "ethnic" vegetables. Cuts of meat were rather limited and different hamburger choices were just about unheard of. Frozen vegetables were Birdseye and frozen juices came in small cans only. Eggs were eggs and milk was whole, skimmed or chocolate. Paper products offered few choices and generic or bargain brands were unheard of.

Alcoholic drinks! Highballs and cocktails. Imported liquors were pretty much limited to ales, cognacs, wines and liqueurs. Beers were "name brands" "Fancy" drinks were few, if any and vodka came in one flavor only, none.

Lucky was the housewife who had an Electrolux vacuum and a "barrel" washing machine with power ringer. Televisions were few and far between. If you were one of the lucky households you erected an antenna, pointed it in the right direction and were rewarded with 3-5 channels that you had to get up and manually change to see the shows you wanted. The channels signed off with the national anthem at midnight. And let's not forget Amos N Andy and The Cisco Kid. Wasn't it interesting that Daniel Boone and Davy Crocket looked the same?

Newspapers could be had for morning delivery and there were also afternoon papers. They were all delivered by youths riding bicycles (I was one of them) who personally collected for them at the end of the month. Tips were a bonus and had to be earned landing the paper where the subscriber wanted it.

Nobody cared about how many calories were in a meal, what ingredients were in packaged or restaurant foods and we thoroughly enjoyed both in our blissful ignorance.

Schools began the day with the Pledge of Allegiance and often a prayer, ESL had never been heard of and ethnic studies hadn't even been considered. We were taught the 3-Rs and they worked just fine, as did writing in cursive.

You dressed up for church, to go out to dine and, if you were in the lucky minority, to take a trip by plane. Block parties, round-robin dinners and cocktail parties were the norm in certain societies and people smoked everywhere.

Last but not least, an E-ticket meant something.
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Can't remember what George Burns and Gracie Allen's show was called...
The Burns and Allen Show.

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Old 01-24-2015, 11:35 AM
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Location: Cody, WY
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I just awoke; I always check the weather when I do. I looked at the NWS website which is always open on my computer and saw a 100% chance of heavy snow and freezing fog for today with a temperature of 30. I wondered where that came from; I had no previous recollection of seeing it. It just seems mostly overcast and not bad. I need to go to the store so I figured I better get moving since it's supposed to be snowing right now and I have a fifty mile round trip with at least an hour in town.

Then I noticed that I somehow was on the page for Portsmouth, New Hampshire. I quickly brought up my exact location. There's no snow in the forecast for the next week and the temperature In Cody is 46. I checked my thermometer; it's 48 at my house.

How on earth did I get to Portsmouth, NH? Do I have a gremlin in the computer?

I wish a great day to everyone here who is there or getting the same storm. You can go cross-country skiing. There isn't a speck of snow on the ground here; we haven't had any for two weeks. Our biggest snow month is April. Late January and February are usually dry and relatively mild.

I must mention that around here the people who own restaurants decide whether to allow smoking. That's the way it should be.
 
Old 01-24-2015, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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We were taught the 3-Rs and they worked just fine, as did writing in cursive.
Kids today are not being taught handwriting in school. They will not know how to sign their names in writing, will print it (if they can) or sign X.

We didn't have "special ed" back then either. Either you knew what was being taught, or you got held back a year.
 
Old 01-24-2015, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Verde Valley AZ
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Kids today are not being taught handwriting in school. They will not know how to sign their names in writing, will print it (if they can) or sign X.

We didn't have "special ed" back then either. Either you knew what was being taught, or you got held back a year.
California has special ed in the 50s. My brother started it in 1955 and stayed in it all through school. He graduated, finally, at 19, here in AZ. That was a feat nobody ever thought would happen.
 
Old 01-26-2015, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Near a river
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Looks like we're really in for it here in the Northeast today and tomorrow, a potentially "historic and crippling" blizzard with up to 66 mph winds, nearly 3 feet of snow, thunder and lightning, coastal flooding. It's supposed to start this afternoon into tomorrow night. There's likely to be widespread power outages. The stores are packed with people buying up food and supplies. Anyone up this way, prepare with all the necessities (headlamps are invaluable), don't forget the pets and their needs.
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