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Old 05-10-2015, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Approximately 50 miles from Missoula MT/38 yrs full time after 4 yrs part time
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Just stopping by to say hi to everyone on this somewhat overcast but warm Sunday morning and to wish a happy Mothers Day to all.

I've been enjoying the many posts about moving/traveling that some of you are engaged in.

The two newly adopted old dogs are doing well, continuing to loose weight with the help of lots of green beans in their diets. Both have more medical issues than the rescue told me about but there was little in the vet records either about the level of the problems. One has rather severe allergies and will undergo testing in early July after she has been off the steroids for a 8 weeks. Unfortunately the allergy to whatever went undiagnosed and treated for so long that it had a major impact on her ears and she should have both ear canals removed which is a pretty big ticket surgery.

On a happy note I finally had my new sink installed. I lived with a porcelain double bowl style for 9 years and now have a single bowl stainless that comes with a smaller insert bowl, a large colendar and even a nice bamboo cutting board that all fit on the rim. I can't say that I suddenly LOVE doing dishes but my kitchen has never been tidier.

Nygal2NC I periodically head "down the mountain" to W-S to do a big Costco shop and although I haven't seen much of the area it does strike me as a pretty good place and in the winter I sometimes think that I might have been happier in that area but when I head down in the summer and feel the difference in temps from up up here on the Blue Ridge Plateau I know that I'd have a hard time coping with the heat.

With a chance of thunderstorm this afternoon I'd best get out and do some mowing this morning - the grass grows so fast. The ride on mower makes quick work of the broad expanses but there are hundred and hundreds of feet of edging around the fences, etc that take a lot of work, even with a good Stihl trimmer.
.............zugor...............
What is your elevation at your place?

Also, how do you prepare the green beans for the dogs? I've had my Brittany on a "Weight Management" formula (chicken/turkey based) (for over a year now) mfg by "FROMM" out of Wisconsin and he just stays at the same weight level (50 pounds). I feed him 7/8ths cup dry at 6 am and the same amount about 4 pm.
He's 9yrs 4 months old, good health/ gets exercised about an hour per day and gets about 4 or 5 VERY SMALL treats (Paul Neumans Brand) (about the size of a dime)...........IIRC the dry kibble is 341 calories per cup.
Edit: Additional info: If I drop his feed down to about 5/8 cup at each feeding, he ends up eating the deer and elk droppings that are ALL OVER my place. Ever since he was a pup, he has had the tremendous appitite....................Always hungry and will eat ANYTHING!!

Any suggestions are welcome..............Thanks

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Old 05-10-2015, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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The two newly adopted old dogs are doing well, continuing to loose weight with the help of lots of green beans in their diets.
Zugor, I'm curious, how do green beans help? I know some folks who swear by raw meat for dogs, but I can't bring myself to do that. We do our own homemade, with quinoa or millet (these are not grains), ground beef, and chopped steamed veg's and ground flaxseed. How would you rate that? Our Jack Russell has a bit of a belly on him and I'm wondering about this mix.
 
Old 05-10-2015, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Floyd Co, VA
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.............zugor...............
What is your elevation at your place?

Also, how do you prepare the green beans for the dogs? I've had my Brittany on a "Weight Management" formula (chicken/turkey based) (for over a year now) mfg by "FROMM" out of Wisconsin and he just stays at the same weight level (50 pounds). I feed him 7/8ths cup dry at 6 am and the same amount about 4 pm.
He's 9yrs 4 months old, good health/ gets exercised about an hour per day and gets about 4 or 5 VERY SMALL treats (Paul Neumans Brand) (about the size of a dime)...........IIRC the dry kibble is 341 calories per cup.
Edit: Additional info: If I drop his feed down to about 5/8 cup at each feeding, he ends up eating the deer and elk droppings that are ALL OVER my place. Ever since he was a pup, he has had the tremendous appitite....................Always hungry and will eat ANYTHING!!

Any suggestions are welcome..............Thanks
I use frozen cut beans and simply thaw them out. I do squeeze out almost all the water from the bag and they get 1/3 cup tightly packed. They get a heaping tablespoon of canned food and I add a little under an ounce of chicken broth. I do heat the mixture up in the microwave. It gets added to their kibble along with some meds and they eat it all up.

Labs too are often well known for their starving dog behavior and these two girls will run around and eat any dog poop that I've missed in my daily clean up so I have to be extra vigilant on that issue.

What if you reduce just one meal from 7/8 down to 3/4, so that he gets just a tiny bit less kibble each day. Or you can try to up the amount of exercise some. Most of the dogs who run the Iditirod are around 45 to 50 pounds and during that race they consume about 10,000 calories a day. Yeah, 10,000 cause they are running nearly 100 miles each day.

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Zugor, I'm curious, how do green beans help? I know some folks who swear by raw meat for dogs, but I can't bring myself to do that. We do our own homemade, with quinoa or millet (these are not grains), ground beef, and chopped steamed veg's and ground flaxseed. How would you rate that? Our Jack Russell has a bit of a belly on him and I'm wondering about this mix.
The green beans help by adding some volume to their meals without as many calories as the kibble. Helps them feel a bit fuller. I also do carrots sometimes.

The first old black lab that I adopted (sight unseen, just a photo and a story on the net) was 92 pounds when I got him and he could barely waddle and I could hardly lift him up in to the Suburban to get him home. At the end of ten months of carefully measured meals he was down to a healthy 48 pounds.

Bella, one of the new girls came in to rescue weighing 113 pounds and should be about 55 to 60 at most. She'd lost quite a bit before I got her and she's currently down more than 30 pounds and is beginning to show a hint of a waistline. Getting her on 75mg of carprofen twice a day to help with the pain from her arthritis seems to have helped her too in that she now spends more time moving around the yard as Boca the 8 yr old greyhound mix races around and charges her she will go after him for a short distance. Daisy was 103 pounds and is down to 65 pounds with a bit more to go.

It's so easy for me to control the dogs diet but I don't have the same restraint/discipline when it comes to my own - way too many treats and too little exercise so I'm hoping that with the dogs setting a good example and their need for exercise I'll lose some weight too.
 
Old 05-10-2015, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Prescott AZ
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My "schnoodle" is overweight too. I give him frozen green beans with his Metabolic (or other) dog food and in between the 2 meals, he also likes lettuce and watermelon. He loves to eat, just like me !
 
Old 05-10-2015, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Default Who can explain this one to me?

Who can explain this one to me? A couple of years ago I asked, out of curiosity, why women wanted/needed their own separate thread in which to discuss relocation, and some (not all) female respondents tore me a new one. I have yet to understand the rage which that simple question provoked.

Now we have poster ebn78 in the "If you had to live in the USA?" thread who is receiving only the mildest and meekest rebukes for his vitriolic, gross, and simplistic anti-female rants. Why is he getting a pass?

Some examples starting from about post #88: "...feminist bossy manly women."
".....the godawful women here (in the USA)"
".....all the Fatties (capitalization sic). American women have become world wide terrible in terms of beauty and mothering."
"....Nazi-Feminist American Women" (capitalization sic)
"...American men have to settle for some used up old hag their age."

So what is going on? My non-objectionable question merits outrage, but that stuff, which is objectionable even to me, passes almost unnoticed? I am mystified.
 
Old 05-10-2015, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Nebraska
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Feeling better. Not quite 100% yet. My son was telling me it took him a full year to recover from his pneumonia.
 
Old 05-11-2015, 01:13 AM
 
Location: Cochise county, AZ
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Who can explain this one to me? A couple of years ago I asked, out of curiosity, why women wanted/needed their own separate thread in which to discuss relocation, and some (not all) female respondents tore me a new one. I have yet to understand the rage which that simple question provoked.

Now we have poster ebn78 in the "If you had to live in the USA?" thread who is receiving only the mildest and meekest rebukes for his vitriolic, gross, and simplistic anti-female rants. Why is he getting a pass?
NO
Some examples starting from about post #88: "...feminist bossy manly women."
".....the godawful women here (in the USA)"
".....all the Fatties (capitalization sic). American women have become world wide terrible in terms of beauty and mothering."
"....Nazi-Feminist American Women" (capitalization sic)
"...American men have to settle for some used up old hag their age."

So what is going on? My non-objectionable question merits outrage, but that stuff, which is objectionable even to me, passes almost unnoticed? I am mystified.
ESCORT, this is my own personalized opinion, no one else's.
A lot of women (myself included), have been abused or looked over for promotion or treated as if, because they are women, they should serve others. Tends to make a woman who has contributed to the mission just a touch Mary.
 
Old 05-11-2015, 01:15 AM
 
Location: Cochise county, AZ
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That should have been angry but Mary works well also, lol.
 
Old 05-11-2015, 04:50 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Originally Posted by Escort Rider View Post
Who can explain this one to me? A couple of years ago I asked, out of curiosity, why women wanted/needed their own separate thread in which to discuss relocation, and some (not all) female respondents tore me a new one. I have yet to understand the rage which that simple question provoked.

Now we have poster ebn78 in the "If you had to live in the USA?" thread who is receiving only the mildest and meekest rebukes for his vitriolic, gross, and simplistic anti-female rants. Why is he getting a pass?

Some examples starting from about post #88: "...feminist bossy manly women."
".....the godawful women here (in the USA)"
".....all the Fatties (capitalization sic). American women have become world wide terrible in terms of beauty and mothering."
"....Nazi-Feminist American Women" (capitalization sic)
"...American men have to settle for some used up old hag their age."

So what is going on? My non-objectionable question merits outrage, but that stuff, which is objectionable even to me, passes almost unnoticed? I am mystified.
I had no objection to changing the thread to include men.

As to the derogatory comments in the "If you had to live in the USA" thread, the title was enough to put me off. I never read it.


Maybe nobody has reported the comments? Aren't they against c-d forum rules?
 
Old 05-11-2015, 05:45 AM
 
Location: UpstateNY
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Feeling better. Not quite 100% yet. My son was telling me it took him a full year to recover from his pneumonia.
Glad to hear it. Has your recovery been steady positive, or a few days good then BAM feel awful again?



ER, it could be b/c of your high rating. We tend to let newbies pass??
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