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Old 09-23-2011, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Prospect, KY
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Originally Posted by Curmudgeon View Post
The biggest difference is that we've actually lived life.

This entire thread, beginning with the opening post, is an indictment of seniors and nothing more than senior bashing. It's also illogical, insensitive and really dumb.. But that hasn't stopped the OP. Nothing will except extinguishing him.

Time for me to take my own advice!
I agree. No more.

 
Old 09-23-2011, 02:36 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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There are bad people in jail. This is not the good people's fault.
Yea there are bad people who run the court system, the jails and even politics but yet many of them are not being held accountable for their crimes
 
Old 09-23-2011, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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You're missing the point again. This is not a contention of where the subsidy comes from. Nor is it a question whether either subsidy is right or wrong.

I've watched your generation grow up. You've been coddled since birth. Parents with life long investment plans, to make sure all you have to do for college is show up. Any academic deficiencies are lobbied away through the parent's negotiations with teachers.

Problem with getting a job after college? Let dad make a few phone calls. If all else fails, move back to your childhood bedroom, and cocoon yourself until the skies clear.

Then all of a sudden, sometime in your 30's you hit the mother lode. You're King of the World. And everybody else is a loser. Then there's that thing called the income tax, that you really don't like paying. Because most of it goes to those losers, that just didn't try as hard as you did.
It would be interesting to see the OP's bio...starting with family background (father, since the mother did not work and doesn't have to), then education, then who made the phone calls on his behalf, and finally, what he does for a living besides trade stock. A picture maybe, too, so we can really understand this unique point of view. And whomever the OP chooses to support with his money, why does that person or persons need to be supported?

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Old 09-23-2011, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Metropolis IL
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It would be interesting to see the OP's bio...starting with family background (father, since the mother did not work and doesn't have to), then education, then who made the phone calls on his behalf, and finally, what he does for a living besides trade stock. A picture maybe, too, so we can really understand this unique point of view. And whomever the OP chooses to support with his money, why does that person or persons need to be supported?
There's exceptions to the rule, but for the most part the days of Horatio Alger stories are over. The successful person in their 30's today has nearly always had considerable family support to get where they are. But they can't differentiate their own abilities, from opportunity and chance.

For every one of these types, there's several others struggling with student loans and unemployment, or at least underemployment.

There's a fine line between Mark Zuckerberg and the kid working at Best Buy.
 
Old 09-24-2011, 06:28 AM
 
Location: Near a river
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There's exceptions to the rule, but for the most part the days of Horatio Alger stories are over. The successful person in their 30's today has nearly always had considerable family support to get where they are. But they can't differentiate their own abilities, from opportunity and chance.

For every one of these types, there's several others struggling with student loans and unemployment, or at least underemployment.

There's a fine line between Mark Zuckerberg and the kid working at Best Buy.
I agree. Actually, it's not a fine line. It's a huge valley.
 
Old 09-24-2011, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Metropolis IL
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I agree. Actually, it's not a fine line. It's a huge valley.
I meant in intelligence and potential. But yes, the end result is a huge valley.
 
Old 09-24-2011, 06:04 PM
 
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Originally Posted by BLS2753 View Post
You're missing the point again. This is not a contention of where the subsidy comes from. Nor is it a question whether either subsidy is right or wrong.

I've watched your generation grow up. You've been coddled since birth. Parents with life long investment plans, to make sure all you have to do for college is show up. Any academic deficiencies are lobbied away through the parent's negotiations with teachers.

Problem with getting a job after college? Let dad make a few phone calls. If all else fails, move back to your childhood bedroom, and cocoon yourself until the skies clear.

Then all of a sudden, sometime in your 30's you hit the mother lode. You're King of the World. And everybody else is a loser. Then there's that thing called the income tax, that you really don't like paying. Because most of it goes to those losers, that just didn't try as hard as you did.
Wait what? Coddled? Exactly how?!?!(Sure some have, lots others haven't... SAME AS YOURS)

I started saving for retirement before my Parents (Except my Dad's pension, that's just years, not contribution)

Parents gave me $50 a week my first year of school, that's about it.

As far as them dealing with the school... Hardly. In fact, the reverse!

Interesting dreamworld you live in.

I'm not saying all are like me, but DEFINITELY not what you represent!

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Originally Posted by BLS2753 View Post
There's exceptions to the rule, but for the most part the days of Horatio Alger stories are over. The successful person in their 30's today has nearly always had considerable family support to get where they are. But they can't differentiate their own abilities, from opportunity and chance.

For every one of these types, there's several others struggling with student loans and unemployment, or at least underemployment.

There's a fine line between Mark Zuckerberg and the kid working at Best Buy.
Your imagination is in high gear.
 
Old 09-24-2011, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Next stop Antarctica
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I wonder why some people choose to play passive-aggressive, Monday morning Quarterback. Judging from your questions and answers, your idealistic youth and wet behind the ears attitude tells me that our future does not look bright.
Exactly,you have to have lived first life can deal some bitter blows and with naivity of youth you don't see it happening to you. While i'm here whoever heard of pre-nupts. years ago. Certainly not in my generation.
 
Old 09-26-2011, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Metropolis IL
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Wait what? Coddled? Exactly how?!?!(Sure some have, lots others haven't... SAME AS YOURS)

I started saving for retirement before my Parents (Except my Dad's pension, that's just years, not contribution)

Parents gave me $50 a week my first year of school, that's about it.

As far as them dealing with the school... Hardly. In fact, the reverse!

Interesting dreamworld you live in.

I'm not saying all are like me, but DEFINITELY not what you represent!



Your imagination is in high gear.
Your situation isn't typical. My observations are based on what I see and what I read. If anything, it's a nightmare, not a dream.
 
Old 09-26-2011, 05:21 PM
 
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Originally Posted by MassVt View Post
Your initial statement was virtually an accusation, which is why people are taking exception to it..

There is a way to express a sentiment without offending loads of people, and your opening remark certainly wasn't it...
I did not mean to offend anyone.
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