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Old 10-23-2011, 07:00 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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Not so simple.
The question isn't about the snow days when just about everyone will stay in.
It's about the reasons to live *in* an actual city: Being out in that city and doing things.

The early morning meet so and so for coffee and croissant...
the mid day lunch out and museum visit...
the evening out for dinner and a show with a friend...
And occasionally... all three in the same day.

In order to have these sorts of rather common and rewarding experiences... you have to be
willing to leave the house in the morning before the sun has warmed and melted the overnight frost and ice,
and be out on the street in the late afternoon when new ice often begins to form,
and certainly by the time that the later evening out is winding down and you're walking home.

Rewards come with risks.

hth
Not arguable! Rationale not required. Not everyone wishes to be able to get out-and-about all the time and many are risk-adverse. I don't always crave the former and I'm not the latter but chose a retirement venue with four distinct seasons, none of which are particularly harsh, and "snow days" rarely exceed three or four in a row. During those times we're quite content to hunker-in at home.

As with all else, individual mileage will vary.

Still simple!
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Old 10-23-2011, 07:32 AM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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Not arguable! ...we're quite content to hunker-in at home.
Which view you are more than welcome to hold...
but what does that have to do with what the prior comment was about?
Or about the overall thread theme of accommodating the many and varied values
and preferences that go into these decisions?

non se·qui·tur
A conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement.

btw... Those questions above? They are rhetorical and don't need answers.
Some reflection might be nice but no answers are expected.

hth
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Old 10-23-2011, 08:13 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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Originally Posted by MrRational View Post
Which view you are more than welcome to hold...
but what does that have to do with what the prior comment was about?
Or about the overall thread theme of accommodating the many and varied values
and preferences that go into these decisions?

non se·qui·tur
A conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement.

btw... Those questions above? They are rhetorical and don't need answers.
Some reflection might be nice but no answers are expected.

hth
You get one anyway. Not your decision. Thank you but I neither agree with nor need lessons from you, and certainly not on Latin.


As for the subject at hand, clearly weather is one of many factors that need to be taken into consideration when looking at potential retirement venues. Health and mobility certainly enter into those considerations, as do tolerances and preferences.

Too many time I think people, especially those from colder climes, have "followed the sun" without taking into account such possibilities as extreme and prolonged heat, possible humidity and even the weathers affect on the landscape and have ended up ruing their choice.

Making the right-for-you, overall choice can be daunting and my hope for everyone is that they only have to do it once.

Just one man's editorial comments!

Last edited by Curmudgeon; 10-23-2011 at 08:29 AM.. Reason: clean it up
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Old 10-23-2011, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Olympia, WA
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Default Coeur d'Alene Idaho

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Did not see a plug for PNW yet so here goes:

Coeur d'Alene Idaho

1. Niceness of the area, aesthetically
One of the most beautiful places I have ever been.

2. Driveability (traffic factor, distance factor)
Nice freeway connecting Spokane to CDA. Five minutes and you are in the wilderness.

3. Ease in access to basics: supermarket, library, P.O., stores, entertainment
If you live right in town then you could walk to everything. I live in a small town in the area and it is 2 miles to a grocery/gas, 8 miles to a 24 hour market.

4. Quality of medical facilities and senior living options
Unfortunately both my wife and I have quite a bit of experience in visiting the ER and Urgent care and GPs. Outstanding is all I can say. There are different types of senior living as far as extra care type.

5. Affordable (all things considered, all kinds of taxes) for retirees of modest income, say $50K or under/year
I can only compare to CA where I was before and everything is less. Every tax is less, housing less, electricity less. I would still have to work in CA and I can be retired here.


PS Not for everybody as it is a real 4 seasons with tons of snow, but great if you are tired of incessant heat and humidity.

elousv, thanks for the plug about CDA. I have a friend who moved there from Arizona and they simply love it! It has been on my list of places to consider in a move someday. I have a daughter in Tacoma, WA and a niece in Kamiah, ID.....not too far away for a visit. I'm in middle TN and while the COL is low (housing, taxes), the summer heat and humidity is just too much for me. Besides, I miss the evergreens in that part of America.
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Old 10-23-2011, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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Is it too soon to start compiling our list?

Looks like Coeur d'Alene, Idaho and somewhere in West Texas have made it...where else?
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Old 10-23-2011, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in Texas
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elousv, thanks for the plug about CDA. I have a friend who moved there from Arizona and they simply love it! It has been on my list of places to consider in a move someday. I have a daughter in Tacoma, WA and a niece in Kamiah, ID.....not too far away for a visit. I'm in middle TN and while the COL is low (housing, taxes), the summer heat and humidity is just too much for me. Besides, I miss the evergreens in that part of America.
Kamiah is one of my choices as well with only 1,100 people. CDA is gorgeous (I've been there although it was many years ago), but it's way too populated for me at over 25,000.

I'm in Texas and it has the highest homeowner's insurance rate in the country and our utility rates are relatively high as well. I know what you mean about the heat and until this summer, most of the summers have been very humid. Of course, this past summer had 90 days of triple digit heat and so many days of 90 degrees or better. This has gone on since April and the last 90 degree plus day we had was October 8th. I just couldn't believe no rain for so long. Normally, we get about 35 inches a year and sometimes, more and up to 60 inches.

It's only 79 right now, but it's a bit humid and that so makes a difference, as you well know. Of course, it's okay considering what we went through for six months. I also want to escape the wicked weather, i.e. hail, thunderstorms, high winds, and tornadoes. Why I ever left CA is beyond me.

All the best to you on a potential relocation one day.
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Old 10-23-2011, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Kamiah is one of my choices as well with only 1,100 people. CDA is gorgeous (I've been there although it was many years ago), but it's way too populated for me at over 25,000.


I also want to escape the wicked weather, i.e. hail, thunderstorms, high winds, and tornadoes. Why I ever left CA is beyond me.
Isn't the first clause I bolded the answer to the second sentence I bolded? Or perhaps not if you lived in a very small town away from the major population centers of California.

You seem to be saying that you regret having left California, and that interests me. But why did you leave? There must have been reasons at the time. The usual reasons are cost of living and traffic congestion, but those conditions apply in so many major metro areas outside of California as well. I love it here and I'm staying, and I guess that's the reason your statement interests me.
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Old 10-23-2011, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in Texas
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Isn't the first clause I bolded the answer to the second sentence I bolded? Or perhaps not if you lived in a very small town away from the major population centers of California.

You seem to be saying that you regret having left California, and that interests me. But why did you leave? There must have been reasons at the time. The usual reasons are cost of living and traffic congestion, but those conditions apply in so many major metro areas outside of California as well. I love it here and I'm staying, and I guess that's the reason your statement interests me.

Well, I'm used to small town living now and I wouldn't want to live in the city again. Had I never left Burbank, I wouldn't have known the difference. I left CA 33 years ago and the reason had nothing to do with anything except family living in Texas. It all sounded good at the time.

My simple little home out there was worth $750,000 before this economy went kaput. My ex-neighbor told me via FB that it's now only worth about $550,000. So, you see, we were there when all was inexpensive, so to speak. We paid $35,000 for that home in 1975. I lived there from 1950 until 1978 so, actually, I've lived in TX longer than I did in CA and only lived 14 months in my birth state of NY.

I hope that explains my contradictory, if you will, statements. No matter where I go or where I stay, Burbank will always be my "home" until I reach my final Home.

Cheers.
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Old 10-26-2011, 05:04 AM
 
Location: Olympia, WA
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Default Kamiah, Idaho

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Kamiah is one of my choices as well with only 1,100 people. CDA is gorgeous (I've been there although it was many years ago), but it's way too populated for me at over 25,000.

I'm in Texas and it has the highest homeowner's insurance rate in the country and our utility rates are relatively high as well. I know what you mean about the heat and until this summer, most of the summers have been very humid. Of course, this past summer had 90 days of triple digit heat and so many days of 90 degrees or better. This has gone on since April and the last 90 degree plus day we had was October 8th. I just couldn't believe no rain for so long. Normally, we get about 35 inches a year and sometimes, more and up to 60 inches.

It's only 79 right now, but it's a bit humid and that so makes a difference, as you well know. Of course, it's okay considering what we went through for six months. I also want to escape the wicked weather, i.e. hail, thunderstorms, high winds, and tornadoes. Why I ever left CA is beyond me.

All the best to you on a potential relocation one day.
Canine Castle, what made you say that Kamiah is one of your choices as well? Have you been there? My other niece visited the niece that lives there and posted quite a few pictures of their visit.....the area is breathtaking, the town is right along a river. It is a quaint little town with a good grocery store. As long as I can have my internet and DISH tv, I'm good!
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Old 10-26-2011, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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Canine Castle, what made you say that Kamiah is one of your choices as well? Have you been there? My other niece visited the niece that lives there and posted quite a few pictures of their visit.....the area is breathtaking, the town is right along a river. It is a quaint little town with a good grocery store. As long as I can have my internet and DISH tv, I'm good!
I wonder...for a single or couple retiring and moving far to a new state, especially a smaller town where they know no one, how they can judge (ahead of time, esp if they couldn't spend trial time there), if it's a good fit in terms of the people already living there. If one is more of loner, I suppose it doesn't matter how welcoming the townspeople are. And I do get that one has to "make an effort and get out there, join things," etc...but for someone who is making a huge leap into a brand new place, this can be daunting even if one has the energy and inclination to do it.

Just wondering, esp if you are a single, how you fared in terms of fitting in and making new friends in a totally new place, far from where you left.
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