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Old 11-19-2011, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Ponte Vedra Beach FL
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That's funny and sad at the same time. So, what did the doctors say when you told them this?
I happen to have good relations with my father's PCP and his office (we go back a while - to when my late FIL was still alive - friendly enough that the PCP was invited to my father's 90th birthday part). And I tried and tried to explain it on the phone to the PA - and she just didn't get it. And finally I exchanged email with her and the doc - and they finally seemed to get it. I think.

It wasn't a big deal in my father's case (what do you do when someone is 90+? - my brother the doctor thought I was a moron even to have him take the test - but I wanted to rule out other possible problems). But I thought it was important for the PCP and his staff to understand it because many of their patients are junior seniors or younger (like 55+ - it's more or less a geriatric practice) - there are a lot of women - etc. Still - I doubt it made a difference. Because I had no relationship with the radiology group (had used them a few times many years ago before Mayo became "full service" and didn't like them). And once the radiologist stamps "normal" on something - that is usually the end of it as far as most PCPs are concerned - especially when they're being paid about $25 for a Medicare office visit.

Just as an aside - I think it's recommended that all women with no particular risks for osteoporosis have a baseline study in their early 60's. And - if it's normal - then maybe one every 5-10 years. Don't know what the story is for men. And to make matters even more confusing in terms of reading test results - you get 2 results. One for all women in general - and one for women in your age group. Again - both using standard deviations . Robyn
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Old 11-19-2011, 04:03 PM
 
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...I think you may have missed the point of my post. My hysterectomy was performed for specific medical reasons, but not malignancy. There is no guarantee, however, that removal of organs will assure that one will not be a victim of cancer.
Don't know whether I missed the point but I couldn't agree with you more. Just because you can't get ovarian cancer (because you have no ovaries) doesn't mean you're immune from cancer elsewhere. To some extent - as we age - health care is like playing "whack-a-mole" Robyn
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Old 11-19-2011, 04:14 PM
 
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I had 2 in-laws who ate nothing but processed foods, the regular "American" diet and the female seldom exercised her whole life. She was pretty healthy right up until 1 year before she died at 87. The male drank moderately for a good portion of his life, but eating TV dinners most nights. He lived to be a month short of 89 and healthy up to maybe 1-2 years before his death.
Her mother the same thing (but I think she ate worse actually--red meat, sweets, processed foods). She died tapping her foot to music, literally not kidding, at 93.
Some people have constitutions that are just hardy--who knows why? But, others do seem to have to watch everything. I think it's hard to figure these things out.
I am a believer in all things in moderation. What is wrong with some red meat - ice cream - even some processed foods? I tend to avoid the former in the summer in Florida because it just tastes "too heavy" in the heat. And the latter because it frequently tastes too salty. When we cook at home - which we do often - it is a little to medium amount of salt - not a large amount. So processed foods taste overly salty to me (as do meals at many very high end restaurants).

But the "hardy constitution" (i.e., genetics IMO) has to be taken into account too. All 4 of my grandparents were Jewish immigrants from Europe - and ate similar diets (your basic "heart attacK' diet). Yet they died at various ages ranging from 59 to 103 (average = 86). Robyn
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Old 11-19-2011, 04:31 PM
 
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What was his hip BD? It's too bad some of the DEXA machines do not have the software installed that automatically runs a Vertebral Assessment Scan. The Scan would have undoubtedly revealed collapsing vertebrae.

Wait a minute. What did happen?! Even without a Vertebral Assessment Scan, the reports sent to the physicians always include an image with the numbers. Maybe it's time for your father to get another doc?

I still believe that most CD posters at least understand the difference between the terms correlation and causation.

I always ask for copies of films, whether they are plain old xrays, MRIs or CAT scans. Some of my docs don't trust the radiology reports and want to see the actual films. (Thank God the films are now transferred to disks.)

It's kind of interesting, some of us are very careful choosing our primary care physician and other specialists, but assume we have no choice when it comes to the radiologist or anesthesiologist. I'm not sure that's true. Something to think about.
I am sorry Lenora - but although I'm sure the test results are in a file somewhere - they're not exactly at my fingertips right now.

My father's current PCP isn't the greatest IMO - but he does certain things for him that other PCPs might not do. Overall - I think he's the best for him.

When you talk about the interactions between the people who do the tests - and the docs who act on them - well that's one reason I like Mayo here. It is "one stop" shopping. To give you an example. Last year I had 2 surgeries at Mayo - one skin cancer on my face and one GYN (5 weeks apart). The radiologist for the GYN stuff was on the computer/phone with my GYN while the test was being conducted. So the GYN knew immediately what was going on. And when I went in for the GYN surgery - the anesthesiologist called the skin cancer doc an hour before surgery about whether it was a good idea to put a mask on the skin cancer surgery area when he was administering anesthesia. Skin cancer doc said no - so I had a spinal. Seamless one stop shopping. I like that - makes me feel confident about my medical care. Robyn
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Old 11-19-2011, 04:56 PM
 
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Certainly there is freedom of choice and, yes, choices have consequences but we'll have to disagree on the rest of it. I could preach a good sermon here about being in the Lord's will and how He promised to empower us to do whatever it is He's called us to do, but I won't.

I will, however, point out the Jesus said to give no thought to tomorrow, nor to worry about our bodies. I see no reason not to take Him literally at His word. Doing so sure reduces the stress levels!
Although no one knows for sure - it seems that Jesus died when he was in his early 30's. Perhaps he wouldn't have been as casual about taking care of his body had he lived a longer life. I don't mean to be sacrilegious - but how many 30 year old guys are into worrying about their health? Robyn
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Old 11-19-2011, 05:03 PM
 
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Although no one knows for sure - it seems that Jesus died when he was in his early 30's. Perhaps he wouldn't have been as casual about taking care of his body had he lived a longer life. I don't mean to be sacrilegious - but how many 30 year old guys are into worrying about their health? Robyn
Judging by the threads over on the health boards, apparently quite a few.
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Old 11-19-2011, 06:43 PM
 
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I don't mean to be sacrilegious . . .
But you were sacrilegious, then weren't you. Why? Millions of Christians would find your gratuitous, sacrilegious remarks highly offensive.

Last edited by Wilson513; 11-19-2011 at 07:00 PM.. Reason: Try to be nicer.
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Old 11-24-2011, 04:53 AM
 
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"A handful of commonly prescribed drugs are responsible for two-thirds of emergency hospitalizations among older adults, according to a study in the New England Journal of Medicine."


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Old 11-27-2011, 01:41 AM
 
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And I'd rather slit my throat than spend the rest of my life eating raw stuff all mushed up in a food processor.
Hey, don't knock food processors . My ex boyfriend, who I could almost never get to eat vegetables, discovered about a month ago that he could make cauliflower into a "rice" with his food processor. He adds a little bit of cheese soup to it and now he is a cauliflower addict, eating it several times a week. He has lost weight (without really trying) and says he has a lot more energy. If I'd known that was all it took to get him to eat his veggies, I'd have had the food processor out in a heartbeat.
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Old 11-28-2011, 01:28 PM
 
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Well heck - I make all kinds of purees and soups and stuff like that with my food processor (also use an immersion blender - wonderful gadget). I am just not a big fan of "raw". Robyn
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