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Old 03-31-2012, 05:18 PM
 
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niagra is the cheapest power source in new york state. every utility in the state tries to buy surplus niagra power while selling their own to another utility who has costs that are running higher .

i was once in the LIPA (long island's utility company) trading room. it was like seeing a stock exchange floor with everyone buying and selling power on the grid.
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Old 04-13-2012, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Ponte Vedra Beach FL
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The figure in the chart for Florida is 11.31 cents. I just got our electric bill - and we are pretty close. A total of about 12.3 cents (about 7.5 cents for the base rate and 4.8 cents as a power cost surcharge). There is also a $4.50/month base charge - and a 2.5% state gross receipts tax. Robyn
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Old 04-14-2012, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Near a river
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You'd think, because of power lines, that electricity would be much more expensive in the less populated states like ND/SD, and much less in the densely populated places like New York/Conn/New England. Why are they not???

The town I just moved from, suburbia in Mass., had a rate of 18 cents per KWH.
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Old 04-14-2012, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Table Rock Lake
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I live in rural southwest Missouri.

I have an all electric house and have two water wells. (3 meters)

House used 1980 kwr's, bill was $189.52 which figures .0957 cents per kwh.

Well1 used 35 kwr's, bill was $23.05 which figures .6586 cents per kwh.

Well2 used 8 kwr,s, bill was $20.85 which figures $2.606 per kwh.

Being a simple person, I don't listen to their lies or invented words that hide the truth. I divide the kwh's into the total cost of the bill and that is what I am being ripped off for. IMHO

You do the math!
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Old 04-14-2012, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Ponte Vedra Beach FL
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I live in rural southwest Missouri.

I have an all electric house and have two water wells. (3 meters)

House used 1980 kwr's, bill was $189.52 which figures .0957 cents per kwh.

Well1 used 35 kwr's, bill was $23.05 which figures .6586 cents per kwh.

Well2 used 8 kwr,s, bill was $20.85 which figures $2.606 per kwh.

Being a simple person, I don't listen to their lies or invented words that hide the truth. I divide the kwh's into the total cost of the bill and that is what I am being ripped off for. IMHO

You do the math!
Perhaps you have different electric rates for wells? Wouldn't surprise me if your utility company provided both electricity and water. Why don't you check your utility website - and see what the story is. Robyn
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Old 04-14-2012, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Ponte Vedra Beach FL
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You'd think, because of power lines, that electricity would be much more expensive in the less populated states like ND/SD, and much less in the densely populated places like New York/Conn/New England. Why are they not???

The town I just moved from, suburbia in Mass., had a rate of 18 cents per KWH.
I think a lot depends on whether (and how much) power is produced where you live. Also - what kind - and how much that kind costs. For example - North Dakota is having a huge oil boom these days:

http://www.businessinsider.com/youve...il-boom-2012-3

And it is a lot cheaper to consume oil produced in ND in ND that it is to consume it 1500-2000 miles away.

Reckon taxes and regulatory structures enter into things as well. Robyn
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Old 04-14-2012, 09:44 PM
 
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I know the table was only for 2010 -- just wanted to give a heads up to people that things have increased dramatically and not depend on that.

"Payment in lieu of taxes" is a hidden property tax that you are not allowed to deduct on your income tax. Language taken from my utility bill:

"PILOT (payment in lieu of taxes) -- a portion of your bill for services is payment to the City in lieu of tax that would have been paid if this was a private utility."

And I am also charged a Water Plan Tax along with a sales tax.

And yes, it is 11.9% added to each bill and it is based on the total amount of the bill. Nice little racket they got going there.
Unbelievable! Thanks for posting the details.
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Old 04-15-2012, 06:11 AM
 
Location: Prospect, KY
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Our utilities in So. California here very high. Our house was 1700 sf and we did not have air conditioning (close to the beach) and we had a 3 year old efficient furnace....our utility bills were higher 4 years ago in Southern Cal than our utilities are in Kentucky for a 3200+ sf home where we run either the air conditioner or heater 90% of the time. Our latest bill for both gas and electricity is $130 (granted this is a little low because of the warm spring). Our utilities ae supposed to go up in a year or two.
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Old 04-15-2012, 02:21 PM
 
Location: SoCal desert
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So Cal here. Total bill divided by total kwh used = .1882887 cents.

My bill included a ration of idiotic charges:

Delivery charges of
transmission charges
distribution charges
nuclear decommissioning charges
public purpose programs charge
new system generation charge
SCE Winter On peak
SCE Winter Off peak
DWR bond charge
Customer charge

and
Generation charges of
competition transition charge
DWR energy credit
SCE Winter On peak
SCE Winter Off peak
State tax

and
franchise fees
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