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Old 09-23-2012, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Ponte Vedra Beach FL
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I could see an HOA mowing someone's lawn if they contacted an owner a few times, and he never responded, and the grass was more than a foot high. Other than an extreme case like that, though, I can't see it. I've lived in several HOAs and none of them have ever gone to the effort of removing plants from someone's yard or doing yard work on someone's behalf. What they do is leave you a notice about it.
Our HOA fines people - after giving them notice and an opportunity to be heard at a hearing.

BTW - vegetables and even flowers can be an ugly mess if the gardener doesn't care what the garden looks like. And - for some reason - a lot of people who grow vegetables take pride in having ugly gardens:

My most embarrassing ugly vegetable garden photos from 2009. « SnarkyVegan

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Old 09-23-2012, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Our HOA fines people - after giving them notice and an opportunity to be heard at a hearing.

BTW - vegetables and even flowers can be an ugly mess if the gardener doesn't care what the garden looks like. And - for some reason - a lot of people who grow vegetables take pride in having ugly gardens:

My most embarrassing ugly vegetable garden photos from 2009. « SnarkyVegan

Robyn
Didn't look ugly to me. I was expecting weeds as high as your waist hiding the veggies.
The bits and pieces here and there didn't bother me. But I could see others saying it wasn't neat and tidy.

I know of some neighborhoods in Austin where landscaping companies come and and create raised beds.
And then they also come and take care of it regularly for the homeowners. That is probably more along the acceptable route in HOA subdivisions.

You see, I know that I could never live in an HOA neighborhood. I don't march to the same beat; I'm one step off. I'm the one that mows around a strange plant growing so I can see what it turns into even if it's in the front yard
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Old 09-23-2012, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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I know of some neighborhoods in Austin where landscaping companies come and and create raised beds.
And then they also come and take care of it regularly for the homeowners. That is probably more along the acceptable route in HOA subdivisions.
That might be a good solution for some people. FWIW, I have several flower and vegetable gardens and take care of them myself. Our HOA has never had a problem with it. If they did, they would send a notice--at which point I would go to a meeting and discuss the situation. Like Robyn's neighborhood, fines are assessed if you choose to ignore the notices, but you're given a chance to present your case before that happens.
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Old 09-23-2012, 02:49 PM
 
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I would rather rent an apartment or live in a rural area than "own" a house in a neighborhood with a HOA that has the power to fine. Who needs these grassroots jackboots, their mediocrity, and their conformist ideas? Phooey.
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Old 09-23-2012, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Edina, MN, USA
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You see, I know that I could never live in an HOA neighborhood. I don't march to the same beat; I'm one step off. I'm the one that mows around a strange plant growing so I can see what it turns into even if it's in the front yard
Afraid I'm the same way.
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Old 09-23-2012, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Lexington, SC
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I would rather rent an apartment or live in a rural area than "own" a house in a neighborhood with a HOA that has the power to fine. Who needs these grassroots jackboots, their mediocrity, and their conformist ideas? Phooey.
Your choice. Feel free to do as you wish, as I did what I wished to do.

Freedom of choice is awesome.
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Old 09-23-2012, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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the most "affordable" retiremnet community- not a ccrc- i know of in an area i'd consider living in is mallard landing, in salisbury , maryland. you can purchase a condo for less than $100000, now with current prices or you can rent a condo or a cottage - they have both- for about $1600 - $1800 a month, maybe less for a unit smaller than i'd want. there is an assisted living on the same campus, which many people at mallard landing use short-term or for the next move, but it is not a part of mallard landing. they do not have skilled nursing on site but there are several facilities nearby.
it's a beautiful campus, near a park with pond, and it is meticulously kept. it's close to amentities in salisbury with college, hospital, and most brand name chain stores.
i understand that for some this cost would be more than they want to pay or can pay. but for this kind of retirement community, the prices and the flexibility are extremely competitive.

catsy girl
I notice that the Mallard Landing listings show homeowners paying both county and city property taxes, something to consider.
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Old 09-23-2012, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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I would rather rent an apartment or live in a rural area than "own" a house in a neighborhood with a HOA that has the power to fine. Who needs these grassroots jackboots, their mediocrity, and their conformist ideas? Phooey.
I'm with you 100%.

When I was a boy we lived in a very pleasant older suburb of Chicago, big trees with lots of greenery around. There was no such thing as a HOA. I remember gardens all over the place with both vegetables and flowers. People did try to keep their gardens attractive but the law didn't require it. They just wanted a nice yard. Some folks near us loved squirrels, both tree squirrels and ground squirrels. They had built special squirrel feeders loaded with sunflower seeds and nuts. I guess their yard was messy but it was a neighborhood attraction; people were always stopping just to look at it. No one would have dreamed of complaining.

There were other suburbs that had the new plastic look. Maybe they did have an HOA. They were dull and uninteresting places where I suspect people weren't the most affluent although the really tried for that image.

If I wanted to live in town I'd look for a place where houses all look different, where unstylishly dressed old people walk their unstylish dogs, and where people greet each other when the pass on the sidewalks.

I chose to have my own private neighborhood. But I do wish I had some squirrels...and crows to add to the wildlife mix.


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Old 09-23-2012, 04:46 PM
 
Location: delaware
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I notice that the Mallard Landing listings show homeowners paying both county and city property taxes, something to consider.

i think that property taxes are covered in community fee, which is about $850 a month for one person. i'm not absolutely certain about that; it may depend on size of unit and other factors.
when i owned a 1700 sq. ft home in salisbury 6 years ago, the total of city and county tax was !800 per year.
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Old 09-23-2012, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Ponte Vedra Beach FL
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I would rather rent an apartment or live in a rural area than "own" a house in a neighborhood with a HOA that has the power to fine. Who needs these grassroots jackboots, their mediocrity, and their conformist ideas? Phooey.
My husband happens to be the chairperson of our rules enforcement committee (in a HOA with 1100 houses). And I don't think I'd describe him in your terms. In our experience - there are always going to be people who don't care about maintaining their property - keeping their animals under control - etc. And there's not a heck of a lot you can do about it no matter where you live. All you can do is try.

No matter where you care to live - would you like it if your next door neighbor allowed his yappy dog to run around your property and poop on it daily? Even when it comes to something like lawn maintenance - if your neighbor's yard is nothing but weeds - that's the way your yard will be too soon (because weeds will invade your lawn when they go to seed).

When it comes to how a neighborhood looks - I agree with the "broken windows theory":

Broken windows theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Robyn
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