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Old 05-22-2011, 11:27 AM
 
Location: SoCal desert
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Looks very interesting. Please tell us more. What did you like about the area?
Oh my. Pine trees and the weather. Fool Hollow Lake. The silly squirrel that stole my hot dogs! The story behind how Show Low got it's name.

The library. It has a senior center. Has a medical center. Park's & Rec Department has several programs - adult sports, concerts in the park.

"Show Low Days" every June. Farmer's market. An Indian casino nearby for my visitors. Indian Pow-wows. Friendly police. Mom & Pop restaurants. Chili cook-offs.

I could get a horse again if I wanted. Wildlife and Nature Center. A couple Arts & Crafts festivals. Lots of thrifts shops! More than a few of the thrift shops benefit animals - a very pet-friendly place.

Real estate from small $15K Park Model mobile homes to multi-million estates. All the taxes are less than where I am now.

Four hours away from my sister, which is a safe distance Although if it gets too cold, I'll go see her in Parker AZ. If it gets too hot for her in the summer, she'll come see me.

If you're a shopper, it's not for you. It has a Walmart supercenter, KMart, Safeway, Dollar stores, a health food store, Home Depot and Lowe's, Sears, and JC Penneys.

The people at the city visitor's center (my first stop) were the friendliest I'd seen. First impressions count! Casual and friendly. It's a Levi's and T-shirt town. Pine trees.

Gee, I sound like I work for the Chamber of Commerce. I don't


Edited to add: Forgot to say there's also extensions of both Northern Arizona University and Northland Pioneer College in the area.

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Old 05-22-2011, 12:32 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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Nice discussion, I will interject having scoured all points west for several yrs, and just returned from 4,000 mile trip from PNW to Dallas and points in between.

Preface - My criteria is biased to a CHEAP (affordable / reasonable) location <30 minutes from an international airport and college. (except wyo destinations are 2 hrs from Billings...)

Arizona
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Show Low, Verdi, and Sierra Vista.
These are about the best in AZ, but too far from an airport for me. Show Low is probably the best as far as Mtns and cooler summer weather (big fire danger tho) AZ is really AZ, pretty parched, I'm concerned about water there in the future.Prescott is very nice and equally expensive NOW
Wyoming - Sheridan or Powell are my choices
Nevada - NW of Reno is decent and close enough to CA and NV mtns, as well as Sacramento airport (Carson City is nice too)

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Washington - (staying east ..) Drier climate, no state income tax.
Walla Walla w/ shopping in OR (20 minutes) NO sales tax
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don't think I'd like all the gloomy days. It's one of the prettiest states I have ever visited though.
There are areas that are decent, Your interests can change to allow more time indoors.
consider Wenatchee / Cashmere area. Nice regional public transit and activities. decent weather.

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TX property taxes are very high as well, actually higher than WA ...
My TX props will be tailored to not demand a high property tax. I plan to have acreage in Hill Country (Close to both Austin and San Antonio,cheap airports). I will have a 'wildfire-proof' shop with apartment, laundry, greenhouse, community room, and ~ 5 RV hookups that I will rent out by the month. I will keep a cheap car ($35 StealthRabbit) there to use when I fly in for a sun break.

Tenn.-- I'm currently looking for cash flowing income props in tri-cities area, (NE, fewer weather 'events', and near mtns) this will be one of my 'several destinations'. (a cash flowing property that is self managed with an apartment there for me)




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The premise of retiring alone is the problem (for most)....That it limits our choices by at least 50%.... One place.
(not just in this thread)

I can afford a reasonably "comfortable" retirement living in one location.
or a more frugal retirement that could allow two modest home locations.

I'd prefer to not go it alone.
I'd prefer to find someone else who could afford one location on their own...
and split time between a more northern location in summer and a more southern one in winter.


c'est la vie
Keep in touch. As mentioned above, I plan to have 3 places across USA that are self supporting, with an independent and private space for me, when I am in the area. I will be commuting via flight between these places and have a cheap car there to greet me. I will have positive cash flows to allow me to rent homes overseas for a few yrs, before I am of SS and Medicare age (Master plan..., details subject to change )
 
Old 05-22-2011, 12:55 PM
 
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Gee, I sound like I work for the Chamber of Commerce. I don't.

Nothing wrong with that! You've provided some great information. It's nice when someone takes the time to list all the pros and cons of a particular area. Gives "us" gypsies ideas.
 
Old 05-22-2011, 01:31 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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Whoops... Forgot to add Colorado to Mtns, decent weather, and affordable. Taxes are pretty equitable.

I prefer Ft Collins and Loveland (better weather) closer to WY, but Colo Springs is a good option. West side is more preferred if you don't need an international airport. (Glenwood Springs or Grand Junction)
 
Old 05-22-2011, 02:00 PM
 
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Default Wyoming

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Nice discussion, I will interject having scoured all points west for several yrs, and just returned from 4,000 mile trip from PNW to Dallas and points in between.

Preface - My criteria is biased to a CHEAP (affordable / reasonable) location <30 minutes from an international airport and college. (except wyo destinations are 2 hrs from Billings...)

Arizona These are about the best in AZ, but too far from an airport for me. Show Low is probably the best as far as Mtns and cooler summer weather (big fire danger tho) AZ is really AZ, pretty parched, I'm concerned about water there in the future.Prescott is very nice and equally expensive NOW
Wyoming - Sheridan or Powell are my choices
Nevada - NW of Reno is decent and close enough to CA and NV mtns, as well as Sacramento airport (Carson City is nice too)

Walla Walla w/ shopping in OR (20 minutes) NO sales tax
There are areas that are decent, Your interests can change to allow more time indoors.
consider Wenatchee / Cashmere area. Nice regional public transit and activities. decent weather.

My TX props will be tailored to not demand a high property tax. I plan to have acreage in Hill Country (Close to both Austin and San Antonio,cheap airports). I will have a 'wildfire-proof' shop with apartment, laundry, greenhouse, community room, and ~ 5 RV hookups that I will rent out by the month. I will keep a cheap car ($35 StealthRabbit) there to use when I fly in for a sun break.

Tenn.-- I'm currently looking for cash flowing income props in tri-cities area, (NE, fewer weather 'events', and near mtns) this will be one of my 'several destinations'. (a cash flowing property that is self managed with an apartment there for me)






Keep in touch. As mentioned above, I plan to have 3 places across USA that are self supporting, with an independent and private space for me, when I am in the area. I will be commuting via flight between these places and have a cheap car there to greet me. I will have positive cash flows to allow me to rent homes overseas for a few yrs, before I am of SS and Medicare age (Master plan..., details subject to change )
I noticed you mentioned Powell and Sheridan Wyoming. I've had a chance to just briefly visit Powell (1/2 a day last year and a couple days in 1959!) when my family was visiting a great aunt - who homesteaded in Powell in 1913. It seems like a nice little town - with a college. What did you like about Sheridan? I noticed that Cody was not mentioned. Do you consider medical facilities when adding communities to your 'list'? Does Powell have good medical facilities?
 
Old 05-22-2011, 02:09 PM
 
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I noticed you mentioned Powell and Sheridan Wyoming. I've had a chance to just briefly visit Powell (1/2 a day last year and a couple days in 1959!) when my family was visiting a great aunt - who homesteaded in Powell in 1913. It seems like a nice little town - with a college. What did you like about Sheridan? I noticed that Cody was not mentioned. Do you consider medical facilities when adding communities to your 'list'? Does Powell have good medical facilities?

Had it changed much in 50 years????
 
Old 05-22-2011, 02:26 PM
 
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Had it changed much in 50 years????
Ha Ha! My friend and I stopped at the Homesteader's museum where I was able to get quite a bit information about my Great Aunt & Uncle. The staff was very helpful and delighted that I stopped in. We found a 1954 phone book for Powell and located the address of my relatives. I actually knocked on the door of the house they had lived in. Nice older folks, invited me in and I remembered the place immediately! I took a couple photos of the front of the house. I was only 8 years old in 1959 and don't remember anything about the town.....except for the irrigation ditches in the countryside. That area of Wyoming grows crops not grown in other parts of the state due to their well planned irrigation system - put in many years ago. I am intrigued by the area, closeness to the mountains, Cody, WY and the fact it is a small community with no traffic problems, low crime, so different from the Miami area!
 
Old 05-22-2011, 11:39 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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I noticed you mentioned Powell and Sheridan Wyoming. ...Does Powell have good medical facilities?
Yep Powell Valley Healthcare: Welcome Message.
Medical beyond a local hospital and clinic is not a huge deal, I will be uninsured. If I get too sick for a medi-vacation to Thailand I will just have to die. (I'm surprised how many of us early retirees are dying due to no available (affordable) healthcare. I meet at least one person in USA / week that has lost a spouse or partner due to not having insurance or available care.) Called an old friend today, and he just buried his spouse after starting to be a Full-time RV'r. He now had to sell RV and is back to work & renting a $250/month apartment trying to pay off the ex's last few weeks of care (~ $100k)

WY is all about the people, The weather is really secondary, as the people are superb (I don't consider Jackson or Cody to represent WY people) YMMV
Powell has The Merc (community owned (saved) Mercantile Hey, it is a Co-op (sounds like ME )

Rural Co-Ops: Saving Shopping Options : NPR
Powell mercantile serves as model for others

Powell Pulls Together - The Early Show - CBS News
Powell folks offered me a free Pancake breakfast when I was camping in the city park (for Free) toting my dad's corpse back to NE for burial (he didn't eat much )

Sheridan; Well it is downright NICE and very close to stuff I like (Burgess Jct, NE WY, & Black Hills). I have a passion for the area, as I had my dad cared for at the Sheridan VA during some difficult yrs (many...). I met a 100yr old gal out at the Wagon Box Massacre site. She was a western author who grew up with a cavalry father who fought there. She was a gas and very informative. She had a flat tire, so I changed it for her and we had a great time together.
http://www.wyomingheritage.org/wagonBoxFight.html
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~na...tw07301928.htm

I'm just a WY nut... (not Rock Springs or similar ) but there are some superb places hid away in that state. And the people... (did I mention them )

Oh, the Black Hills... more mtns for cheap. No income tax and only a ONE NIGHT / yr domicile requirement. Can't beat that! (many folks buy and license vehicles, and shop in MT (no sales tax)). I recommend Spearfish (or Sturgis is you can leave one week / yr in August... AND you are eligible for VA care. Rapid is fine too, but I would stay north a few minutes in Meade County (MUCH lower taxes and grief from County). I Have guest homed in SD a few times lately and I really LIKE it too (no international airport..)
 
Old 05-23-2011, 02:05 AM
 
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StealthRabbit, thank you for the Powell links. I listened/read each of them. It sounds like a wonderful community. I need to go back for a visit! Definately. The healthcare clinic sounds good too. The fact is that it isn't a long drive to Cody, a much larger town and one which has incredible museums, etc. You've given me much to consider.
 
Old 05-23-2011, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Newenglandgal, I live just north of Nashville. The tornado alley zone has slowly moved east; this area didn't get as many tornadoes as it does now. I only wish my realtor was more honest and not just out for the commission.

In regards to the cost of living; it's much cheaper down here. We moved from a 50 year old home in CT paying $5,000 in real estate taxes, personal property tax on our cars, high electric costs and home heating oil. Here in TN, we bought a new home which is larger that back in CT, now paying only $1,100 in real estate taxes, no personal property tax on our cars, no heating oil as our heat/ac is an all electric home. Our electric bill is lower here than what we were paying in CT to run the lights/appliances only. There is also no income tax here.

In the end, we miss places we visited back in CT & surrounding states (more day trips than down here), miss friends, miss family, and sadly miss snow instead of these tornadoes. If we could qualify for a mortgage on just a pension income, we'd be looking to go back now.
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