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Old 11-26-2014, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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Hello???? The people whom it was meant to serve are people who do not have cars! If there were no people who did not have cars, there would be no clientele for the service!
Point taken, but there are exceptions.

For ex, in order for me to get to the next town north, where my doctor and dentist are, I have to go over a dangerous two-lane road that is often iced over because it's a mountain pass. Now I'm handling it OK, but even though I have and maintain a car, someday I may rather take the senior van there and back. Also, though some seniors do OK driving in decent weather, they may occasionally need the assistance (walker or wheelchair) in getting in and out of a vehicle in hazardous weather, and taking the senior van assures them that the driver will assist them in and out of the vehicle as well as in and out of their destination.

 
Old 11-26-2014, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Point taken, but there are exceptions.

For ex, in order for me to get to the next town north, where my doctor and dentist are, I have to go over a dangerous two-lane road that is often iced over because it's a mountain pass. Now I'm handling it OK, but even though I have and maintain a car, someday I may rather take the senior van there and back. Also, though some seniors do OK driving in decent weather, they may occasionally need the assistance (walker or wheelchair) in getting in and out of a vehicle in hazardous weather, and taking the senior van assures them that the driver will assist them in and out of the vehicle as well as in and out of their destination.
My original complaint about the waste of taxpayers' money was based on the city where I live, which has no ice on the roads. I was saying that a private, free taxi service for seniors and the disabled does NOT need to operate seven days a week. I would make the same argument for your area too, despite the ice. And that argument would be that seniors and the disabled can stay at home two days a week (Saturday and Sunday) or pay for or arrange their own transportation on weekends.

The idea that government owes every conceivable service to every conceivable group as a birthright is sick. I pay for my own housing and in addition I pay for the housing of millions of others (albeit a pro-rata share, not the whole thing on me!). Ditto for food. Ditto for that portion of medical care covered by Medicaid. Ditto for transportation.

I am O.K. with supporting a safety net, but my example of the senior ride service goes way beyond any conceivable idea of a safety net. "Safety net" does not mean everything everyone could possibly want.

I am 70 years old and I do not feel I should receive any special treatment based on my age. For a long time I refused to take senior discounts as a matter of principle, but a few years ago I caved in, first at the movies because I think they are over-priced anyway. (I admit we are pretty far from the thread topic here).
 
Old 11-26-2014, 09:55 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Church?
This has been more difficult than I expected. After being a member of one church to 30 years it's hard to find one that ''fits'' just right.
 
Old 11-27-2014, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Cochise county, AZ
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That is a tough one. When I moved to St Paul from Minneapolis, I tried church after church but could not find a 'fit'. I finally re.sorted to watching services on tv Sunday morning. It served my needs but it was disappointing. I'm sure there was one but I gave up trying. Wish I hadn't though. The communion you get from the congregation can't be replaced by tv.
 
Old 11-27-2014, 11:34 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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That is a tough one. ...
Tough for me too... I prefer Sunday Evening church and midweek home meetings.
Sunday night church is harder to find than hymnals (Outlawed in PNW in the 1970s..) how do kids these days learn to sightread 4 part harmony music? You tube I guess... That sounds fun...

Saturday evening service is very popular in PNW, but WAY too early for farmers...(I'm often working on Saturday night anyway (relief driver for the 'regular' truckdrivers who wimp out during winter blizzards)

Back to KS I guess... we had a 8:30pm Sunday night meeting (after chores / milking is done) followed by a soup supper, It was great. (country church all by itself on the prairie, nearest town was 25 miles away).
 
Old 11-28-2014, 05:20 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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I'm kind of a traditional LCMS church person. I'm not "high church" but I'm not into banjo services, folk musicians, or rock bands. Things here seem to be one extreme or the other. I figure I'll join one church just so I can transfer membership (after a year) and then decide what I can live with.
 
Old 11-28-2014, 10:36 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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I have never "joined" / become a member of a church or fellowship.

Always very engaged and committed and often teaching adults, weekend/ evening classes and seminars or main service. If not being a member becomes a problem (has surfaced in an 'undercover Baptist' church) (Those joints that choose some covert name that is acceptable to attract the masses / non-baptists').

Lately I have not been choosing housing location from criteria of acceptable place of worship. I haven't found a decent fellowship for 20+ yrs. I just 'Deal-with-it' silently and enjoy and support the 'common-people' (not the place or rub shoulders with the 'leaders')

Weekly worship is a very, very small part of my spiritual engagement. I just live it daily
, and nothing special about worship day, just a different venue to engage with people in need. (I just spent a wonderful week at a 'retreat' (free)). International speakers and students in the countryside heart of Texas. Been coming here for Thanksgiving off and on for 30 yrs.

I found it amazing that there are actually stars and moon in the winter sky....(coming from PNW in Nov) How quickly I forgot (its only been raining for 2.5 months)...
 
Old 12-03-2014, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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These kinds of winters in the North are going to challenge many of us aging boomers. One woman I know who lives suburbia stepped out her back door and fell on black ice (you can't see it) and is now incapacitated. Seniors of advanced age needing to get out for necessities and driving on ice and snow is a scary situation, getting in and out of the car and driving. Relatives and friends having to help seniors get around isn't easy for them either, what with the bundling up, avoiding falls, waiting, etc. I am imagining a huge migration toward Southern areas within a few years.
I imagine it would shock you to know you can fall on ice right here in Las Vegas in the depth of winter. Here, there's underground sprinklers that run 365 days a year, even in Dec./Jan. where it may go below freezing at night, the water overflows onto the sidewalks, freezes, and it can take until mid-morning or until noon for it to melt.

The Deep South has its freezing days in winter as well!
 
Old 12-03-2014, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Tampa Bay Area
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In my 35 years here in the Tampa Bay area, I've had a crust of ice on my bird bath a handful of times. And I've NEVER had to worry about an ice related fall. Yes, the summer's are brutal, but everything's air conditioned. You can get to your appointments when needed and do your chores in the morning and evening. As the southern migration continues, the elderly services will get better as well. Older people vote (there's vote by mail in Florida if you can't get to the poles) and will vote themselves better more senior friendly towns and services.
 
Old 12-08-2014, 05:52 PM
 
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I have never "joined" / become a member of a church or fellowship.

Weekly worship is a very, very small part of my spiritual engagement. I just live it daily.....and nothing special about worship day, just a different venue to engage with people in need. (I just spent a wonderful week at a 'retreat' (free)). International speakers and students in the countryside heart of Texas. Been coming here for Thanksgiving off and on for 30 yrs.

I found it amazing that there are actually stars and moon in the winter sky....(coming from PNW in Nov) How quickly I forgot (its only been raining for 2.5 months)...

That's about how I am with church. An item on my bucket list I've been chiseling away at for years is to attend a different place of worship every week. Except I haven't come close to going each week. But I have attended services at many different Christian denominations; a Jewish synagogue; a Buddhist weekend open house in the Catskills; a Maronite Lebanese service... among others. I've found most places welcome those of us who want to know more about how others worship. Usually I derive the most spiritual fulfillment from my outdoor surroundings...which is probably why I want to retire close to the Smokeys & Shenandoah region so much. On a clear night, away from the city lights, those stars practically reach out and touch you.
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