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Old 01-07-2015, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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@Escort Rider
I think you made a mountain out of a molehill regarding Jauburn's comment "laid out more for cars than for people." In fact, it is true that most places indeed are laid out that way. I don't think the comment was intended to dehumanize car owners or make them defensive about their choice, because it is a factual comment and did not disparage anyone.

So, in my view, there is no argument here. To recapitulate, I myself said somewhere in my previous posts that I am passionate about being car-less and that should not be taken as a statement from or by a radical fanatic. You know why? Because:
(1) I don't have or no longer have to commute to work or want to work to enjoy daily living or support a family, so I don't need a car every day;
(2) I prefer to spend any car budget on other things or activities and I can't have both without sacrificing the other; hence, my choice of living in-city. I like to be able to walk out of my building and see people walking about just like me. If I can walk to shops and restaurants, what a great bonus.
(3) I rent a car when I need to drive long distance to get to a particular destination. I consider my money well spent when it is not being spent on a machine that is unused (or infrequently used) in a garage or parking lot. Imagine, instead of spending approximately $300 to keep a car on hand, I can use the money to buy stocks. Of course, some may find driving more exciting than watching a stock you bought go up or down.

So, I'm not jealous about people who can keep both car and bike and walk. But I'm finding that having one less option leads to better discipline. It's like moving from a 1500 sf home to an apartment half that size. You learn to live on what's left or what's important to you, as an individual, and in your current circumstance.

I guess I'm trying to defend Jauburn here, because it isn't fair to misunderstand and misjudge what I thought was an innocent factual comment on his/her part.

By the way, my favorite exercise is calisthenics in bed before I get up , so walking is just a bonus from wanting to get from here to there, without boarding a bus or taxi or driving a car.
Over-reaction on my part? O.K., probably so, and I'm glad you pointed it out. But if you go back and re-read my post (over-reaction or not) you will see that I made no argument against people who have decided to give up their cars. I have no quarrel with them, as I understand the various reasons which can make that move make a lot of sense for certain individuals. I was reacting only to the perceived (or perhaps misperceived) tone of moral superiority. There is in fact a lot of that in the Urban Planning Forum, which could be one reason I am sensitive (over-sensitive?) to it.

Cheers!

 
Old 01-09-2015, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Cochise county, AZ
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Can we get back to the original topic please? I really want to know what to do. So much of me wants to go to Knoxville, but the chicken in me wants to stay with the known. It's so darn frustrating to now have to walk with a cane & I can't walk far at all. What to do, what to do.
 
Old 01-10-2015, 01:39 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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If it's only the chicken in you that wants to stay, go.


Don't let fear control your life.
 
Old 01-10-2015, 04:07 AM
 
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Can we get back to the original topic please? I really want to know what to do. So much of me wants to go to Knoxville, but the chicken in me wants to stay with the known. It's so darn frustrating to now have to walk with a cane & I can't walk far at all. What to do, what to do.
Have you checked out the Knoxville chat thread? I haven't been on it in well over a year, but there are so many nice people on there, many of them retirees. There is one by the user name of PamAndBill, she doesn't post much any more, but you could always send her a private msg to get her attention. I've met her in person & she's very nice...and very honest. I'm sure she has some answers for you regarding your mobility concerns.

Knoxville is still on my short list (CT, NC, VA & TN)....but my retirement date has really been pushed back. I'm trying to find the happy medium between having a plan.....& totally freaking out. I think that's why I take a lot from the posters here who can roll with it - a lot can change on the way to doing what you planned.
 
Old 01-10-2015, 06:26 AM
 
Location: Near a river
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Can we get back to the original topic please? I really want to know what to do. So much of me wants to go to Knoxville, but the chicken in me wants to stay with the known. It's so darn frustrating to now have to walk with a cane & I can't walk far at all. What to do, what to do.
It seems that getting around at this age and older, for you and many of us, is the key thing. How do your two choices of locations measure up to that? I occasionally take the inter-campus bus but though my mobility has improved, it's still sometimes a challenge to get onto and off a full-scale bus. If I used a cane, it would be even more difficult. The senior transportation minivan offers assistance from the driver, door to door. That is why I will always live in a place that has the senior van, whether I ever use it or not.

Even if you think now that you can continue to drive well into your eighties, this is worth some close consideration.

The only other thing that comes to mind is extremes in climate/weather. Where you are now seems really brutal (?) in winter. I've been in Knoxville (a very nice city) in the summer and nearly passed out from the heat/humidity. I don't know what the winters are like.
 
Old 01-10-2015, 10:54 AM
 
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Meo, how many times have you visited Knoxville. Would you be living right in the city or in the outskirts?
Have you made a list of pros and cons for staying or moving? As I recall, you have family nearby where you are living now. It's a very hard decision as we get older and would be moving by ourselves, unless we absolutely fall in love with a place. What is really the driving force in thinking you want/need to move?
 
Old 01-10-2015, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Cochise county, AZ
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Meo, how many times have you visited Knoxville. Would you be living right in the city or in the outskirts?
Have you made a list of pros and cons for staying or moving? As I recall, you have family nearby where you are living now. It's a very hard decision as we get older and would be moving by ourselves, unless we absolutely fall in love with a place. What is really the driving force in thinking you want/need to move?
Arthritis. I love Minnesota 3 seasons of the year but winter is really starting to affect me. Since the car accident & the damage to my back, it is difficult to live here in the winter. I want to give it 1 more year to see if I'll heal more but being miserable for months is not fun.
 
Old 01-10-2015, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Cochise county, AZ
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And my oldest brother lives in Nashville as do my niece & her boys. He's the one that first brought up Tennessee. I started researching & Knoxville seemed to fit a lot of my criteria. But, my 1st choice would be to stay here. LOL, I'm watching the weather though & 50's seem so much nicer than -0.
 
Old 01-10-2015, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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I wonder more and more, as I age and dream and explore other locations, whether climate really has to be so near the top of the list for so many retirees. Many leave their families behind for the promise of easy winters, with the tradeoffs of great distances from relatives and awful summers (necessitating the headaches involved in snowbirding for some). I struggle with the whole issue, here in the middle of a deeply cold winter. Knowing the difficult tradeoffs keeps me here.
 
Old 01-10-2015, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Cochise county, AZ
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This is why I am planning on waiting another year. I'm hoping to get into HUD Housing & take it from there. See if living in town as opposed to the country with my family makes a difference. I have plenty of interests & actually the downside of changing environments is that I have winter projects that may or may not get done in a better climate. Midwesterners tend to take advantage of the warm weather & don't spend a lot of time indoors.
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