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Old 04-04-2015, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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And this is why it's a good thing the U.S. is so large and varied. I'd rather die than live somewhere in an $80K house. Been there, grew up and left for the big city. But for those who want that - great! Different strokes for different folks.
You'd rather die? Oh my.

 
Old 04-04-2015, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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I'm sorry I didn't make my point clear. The words "an $800K home" are meaningless, even within the urban areas of California, because a home of that value could be small like your sister's or much larger and quite nice, depending on (among other things) the snob appeal of the neighborhood. There is just too much variation involved.
Again, I was comparing her house with a really similar house (sqft and niceness, even a yard) in a similar kind of income area here. Of course I agree with you on a larger level that these comparisons like comparing apples and bananas. I don't believe than it's any pricier to LIVE in California than it is to LIVE in Mass. It's the difference in housing costs. Again, in my research I find the property tax in CA not all that bad. My sister pays 2/3 of what I do, and her home is valued at much, much more than mine. But then again, I have a sizeable yard.

I would be curious to know what nice apartment rentals go for (in general) in urban CA. My niece in Irvine pays about $3K/mo for a 2-bedrm gated townhouse.
 
Old 04-04-2015, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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I hate to break the news to you, but a $340k 2 BR townhouse with no yard is also extreme. ........................

If I had $340K to spend, or could qualify for that type of loan more likely, I could live in a virtual mansion nearly anywhere else in the country.

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Oops, you engaged in a bit of exaggeration there when you wrote "nearly anywhere else in the country". There are a bunch of places where that is not true at all, such as Boston, Washington D.C., Chicago, New York City, Honolulu, San Francisco, San Diego, and others but I'm too lazy to look up cost of living figures.

I am of the opinion that one more or less gets what one pays for, but I don't mean the size or the house of the quality of its construction. I am talking about what one gets out of one's location. What I get out of being here is world-class live classical music concerts, foreign films in multiple venues, a plethora of genuine ethnic restaurants, world-class museums galore, and other things of that nature. I don't have any desire to live in the sticks.

That's not even to mention the world's best climate.

So no, $340K for my townhouse is not extreme but quite mainstream for a lot of locations in the United States. Yes, one can find stuff for one-third the price in some places. I was already aware of that.
 
Old 04-04-2015, 03:32 PM
 
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as far as CA water situation, I personally haven't gotten any notice about cutting back (other than common sense stuff based on the news), although my complex isn't watering the landscaping as much as they were before. Residential water use isn't really the big issue It's the agricultural areas (Central California) that use the most water to grow crops so very soon the crops will fail and everybody in the US will feel the effects with higher prices. CA supplies a large percentage of food to the entire US. Agricultural workers will be losing their jobs and then there will be a huge unemployed immigrant population I wonder when the powers that be will shut down big water users (like Sea World and other large amusement parks), doubt it will ever happen yet they expect us to stop watering our petunias. It's always the little guys that get punished, not the big corporate revenue generators. Anyway, they should have been building more desal plants here a long time ago as they knew this was coming.

SoCal is naturally desert and to desert it will return. When I look at the ocean, it reminds me of the old saying "water, water everywhere and not a drop to drink".

I would really caution anybody contemplating moving here because there isn't enough time to fix the problem that is rapidly approaching.
 
Old 04-04-2015, 03:38 PM
 
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You'd rather die? Oh my.
Yes. I wou consider it a form of death. I value happiness way over living cheap.
 
Old 04-04-2015, 06:20 PM
 
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Yes. I wou consider it a form of death. I value happiness way over living cheap.
Happiness depends on square footage?
 
Old 04-04-2015, 06:24 PM
 
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Agricultural workers will be losing their jobs and then there will be a huge unemployed immigrant population I wonder when the powers that be will shut down big water users (like Sea World and other large amusement parks), doubt it will ever happen yet they expect us to stop watering our petunias. It's always the little guys that get punished, not the big corporate revenue generators. .
I find it laughable that restaurants will now only serve water when asked, when gagillions of water are being wasted by so many industries. Who's in charge out there??

As for singles moving to CA, their water footprint will likely be small at retirement age, so I would think CA would try to attract retirees and detract younger folks likely to use many more gallons of water per per/day.
 
Old 04-04-2015, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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I find it laughable that restaurants will now only serve water when asked, when gagillions of water are being wasted by so many industries. Who's in charge out there??

As for singles moving to CA, their water footprint will likely be small at retirement age, so I would think CA would try to attract retirees and detract younger folks likely to use many more gallons of water per per/day.
It's not laughable at all. First, the amount of water in the unused glass is less than the amount of water required to wash the glass. In order to conserve water, both large and small ways need to be considered. Why have even that small-scale waste of unused glasses of water (plus the water to wash the glass) in restaurants? Have you thought of how many millions of people must eat in restaurants every single day in the state of California?

I don't know who's in charge out here but I'm glad it's not you.
 
Old 04-04-2015, 07:11 PM
 
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It's kinda hard to imagine that almost any part of CA wouldn't be some sort of an improvement, especially for someone now living in "zip code 20011" (aka WA, DC)…with a higher COL than NYC, lousy weather, and Moderator cut: link removed, linking to competitor sites is not allowed?!
I think you responded to the wrong person, or have me confused with someone else. I do not and never have lived in WA, DC. I have not, nor would I, suggest retiring there either.

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Old 04-04-2015, 07:17 PM
 
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And this is why it's a good thing the U.S. is so large and varied. I'd rather die than live somewhere in an $80K house. Been there, grew up and left for the big city. But for those who want that - great! Different strokes for different folks.
I doubt you would actually rather die than live in an 80k home. If that is true, then you might want to reconsider your priorities.

It matters a great deal where that 80k home is. In some areas, it could be quite nice - in others, it might be a slum. In the areas I am looking at, its an older home that probably needs paint and carpet. Not a problem in my book - it just means I get to decorate to suit myself.
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