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Old 04-04-2015, 07:32 PM
 
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Oops, you engaged in a bit of exaggeration there when you wrote "nearly anywhere else in the country". There are a bunch of places where that is not true at all, such as Boston, Washington D.C., Chicago, New York City, Honolulu, San Francisco, San Diego, and others but I'm too lazy to look up cost of living figures.

I am of the opinion that one more or less gets what one pays for, but I don't mean the size or the house of the quality of its construction. I am talking about what one gets out of one's location. What I get out of being here is world-class live classical music concerts, foreign films in multiple venues, a plethora of genuine ethnic restaurants, world-class museums galore, and other things of that nature. I don't have any desire to live in the sticks.

That's not even to mention the world's best climate.

So no, $340K for my townhouse is not extreme but quite mainstream for a lot of locations in the United States. Yes, one can find stuff for one-third the price in some places. I was already aware of that.
You've concentrated on high-density metropolii. Again, hate to break the news - but that is not where the majority of people live. I can, in fact, live in a ginormous McMansion in multiple places in every state in the union (with the exception perhaps of Washington DC, which isn't really a state) EVEN in CA.

So yes, 340k for your townhouse IS extreme for most of the population of the US, especially considering what that 340k buys you. Can I find a nice big house for that in every single city in the US? Of course not. Never said I could. Doesn't matter. Don't want to live with that many people crushing around me anyway.

I hate to think what I could be living in in Chowchilla on that kind of money. I wonder if they even have much real estate in that price range at all.

I don't care about classical music concerts, and I can see foreign films anywhere I want to - if nothing else, there is always Netflix, and about 3/4 of my Netflix list is foreign films, LOL!

I cook my own ethnic foods and I do enjoy a good "authentic ethnic" restaurant, but if they don't have many, its not going to ruin my day. I like museums as well, but I don't need to live next door to one.

The things that matter to me are having my own space, not being crammed in between houses with postage stamp lots on every side. I want a yard, fruit trees, flower beds, and garden space.

You're allowed to love where you live - but where you live is stupid expensive for the vast majority of people in the US who are looking for an affordable place to retire.

I am not even considering CA simply because of the water situation. There's not enough rainfall to garden without irrigation even in good years. So while there are places I could afford - see my other post about that - CA just isn't on my radar.

That just means one less outsider moving in to your state anyway, so I'm sure it doesn't worry you, LOL!

 
Old 04-04-2015, 07:35 PM
 
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Happiness depends on square footage?

LOL! I'd rep you again but it won't let me!
 
Old 04-04-2015, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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You've concentrated on high-density metropolii. Again, hate to break the news - but that is not where the majority of people live. I can, in fact, live in a ginormous McMansion in multiple places in every state in the union (with the exception perhaps of Washington DC, which isn't really a state) EVEN in CA.

So yes, 340k for your townhouse IS extreme for most of the population of the US, especially considering what that 340k buys you. Can I find a nice big house for that in every single city in the US? Of course not. Never said I could. Doesn't matter. Don't want to live with that many people crushing around me anyway.

I hate to think what I could be living in in Chowchilla on that kind of money. I wonder if they even have much real estate in that price range at all.

I don't care about classical music concerts, and I can see foreign films anywhere I want to - if nothing else, there is always Netflix, and about 3/4 of my Netflix list is foreign films, LOL!

I cook my own ethnic foods and I do enjoy a good "authentic ethnic" restaurant, but if they don't have many, its not going to ruin my day. I like museums as well, but I don't need to live next door to one.

The things that matter to me are having my own space, not being crammed in between houses with postage stamp lots on every side. I want a yard, fruit trees, flower beds, and garden space.

You're allowed to love where you live - but where you live is stupid expensive for the vast majority of people in the US who are looking for an affordable place to retire.

I am not even considering CA simply because of the water situation. There's not enough rainfall to garden without irrigation even in good years. So while there are places I could afford - see my other post about that - CA just isn't on my radar.

That just means one less outsider moving in to your state anyway, so I'm sure it doesn't worry you, LOL!
It turns out we are not really that far apart in our perceptions of the facts, NeonGecko, although we do remain far apart in our preferences. You are not "breaking any news" to me that housing in rural, semi-rural, and small town America is much, much less expensive than housing in the metropolitan areas. I wish I had let your exaggeration in your other post go without comment - we all tend to speak in exaggerations a lot of the time - because I see the price of housing issue pretty much like you see it.

Each of us was speaking from our own perspective, and the two perspectives are very, very different. For example, I do not want a yard. Any yard. A yard is not a desirable thing for me, because I would have to take care of it or pay someone else to take care of it. I was permanently turned off to yard work in childhood when my father made me do too much of it. I do appreciate the many trees I see when I look out of my master bedroom window, and the trees that line my street; I do not actually dislike greenery, not at all.

I was never arguing that people should want to move to California. As you imply, we have too many people here already.

I think it's great that there are places where you can afford housing which is decent. Living in a shack would be depressing. And what is even greater is that you can afford decent housing in a location which pleases you, where you WANT to live. I, too, live where I WANT to live.

It is difficult to discuss the cost of houses when what we are used to is so radically different. Our whole deeply embedded thinking contains a core idea of what things are "worth", what they cost. So there tends to be a gulf of misunderstanding which accompanies such discussions.
 
Old 04-04-2015, 09:25 PM
 
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LOL! I'd rep you again but it won't let me!

You both have completely missed the point. The cheap houses have a very, very high likelihood of not being on the very short list of places that I would live. If I can find one for $80K, fine, but I know the probability is quite low.

Like I said, different strokes for different folks.
 
Old 04-04-2015, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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It matters a great deal where that 80k home is.
And it matters who you live with.
 
Old 04-04-2015, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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You both have completely missed the point. The cheap houses have a very, very high likelihood of not being on the very short list of places that I would live. If I can find one for $80K, fine, but I know the probability is quite low.

Like I said, different strokes for different folks.
I'd happily live in a tent with someone I love.
 
Old 04-05-2015, 12:39 PM
 
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Personally, I always thought I'd like a yourt.
 
Old 04-05-2015, 12:59 PM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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^ ^ Some friends recently bought and remodeled a similar place, a "geodesic dome house" out of the 70's, and not surprisingly their biggest problem was finding the right furniture to go with it (like fitting king size beds into pie-shaped bedrooms)!
 
Old 04-05-2015, 01:28 PM
 
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Lots of different things to do with a yourt.

Smiling Wood Yurts :: Galleries
 
Old 04-05-2015, 01:42 PM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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Personally, I always thought I'd like a yourt.
Drive down to Floyd and have these women make you one:
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