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Old 12-28-2012, 01:58 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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"According to Germany’s federal bureau of statistics, more than 400,000 senior citizens cannot afford a German retirement home, a figure growing by around 5 per cent a year. This is because many are living for longer while their pensions are stagnating. As a result, the Krankenkassen – or statutory insurers that make up Germany’s state insurance system – are discussing cheaper care in foreign retirement homes. EU law prevents state insurers from signing contracts with overseas homes. But that is likely to change as legislators are forced to respond to Europe’s ageing population."


Germany accused of 'deporting' its elderly: Rising numbers moved to Asia and Eastern Europe because of sky-high care costs | Mail Online

Saw this article today. Thought I would share without comment. It took me awhile to realize what the Brit paper is calling retirement homes are actually what we call nursing homes.
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:44 AM
 
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Read the article carefully. The German state is not deporting its elderly. It's not telling the poor elderly that they have to leave. It is the families of the elderly who are placing them in cheaper nursing homes in other countries, in many cases because they think the care is better.

The article only notes some 10,146 + to whom this situation applies. Hardly a flood tide in a country of 82,000,000.

However, it is interesting to note the skyrocketing costs of nursing home care, which almost seems to equal the ridiculous cost of nursing home care in this country.
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Old 12-28-2012, 11:25 AM
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Location: The beautiful Rogue Valley, Oregon
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Also, the Daily Mail is regarded as about a half step above the National Enquirer - check their home page for the kind of "journalism" they practice. Because an article in the Daily Mail says something is true does not mean it is.
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Old 12-29-2012, 04:46 AM
 
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Boy do I agree with the responses. Start reading those articles with a critical eye.

One sentence said the quality was better and such. If that were the case and I had a relative that needed service and it was so close, like in Hungary, I would seriously consider the choice. I would suspect that those that retired to Thailand and the Phillipines were going as a voluntary choice. Remember the Europeans are much more traveled than Americans.

The money earned by Germans go much farther in any Eastern European country.

Another poorly researched fear mongering "news" article for the masses.
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Old 12-29-2012, 05:02 AM
 
Location: Prospect, KY
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I love this forum....so glad there are so many that don't take statments or articles at face value. Sensationalism still sells and there are still many who don't read past a headline or the first couple of sentences (or put their critical thinking caps on).

The article does have value though - it points to the nearly universal problem of an aging population that is often ill prepared to afford or cope with long term health and aging issues and also the burden all this is on their families.

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Old 12-29-2012, 05:10 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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One problem with seniors fleeing for Asia, India, and other less expensive parts of the world is that it's really only a solution for the first few waves of people. As more people take this route, the amenities in those countries will become more crowded, less attractive, and less available.
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Old 12-29-2012, 08:34 PM
 
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One problem with seniors fleeing for Asia, India, and other less expensive parts of the world is that it's really only a solution for the first few waves of people. As more people take this route, the amenities in those countries will become more crowded, less attractive, and less available.
Excellent point
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Old 12-29-2012, 09:41 PM
 
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I have seen where mnay europeans college graduates are actaullu go to asian countries because of better opportunity.
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Old 12-30-2012, 04:51 AM
 
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Due to unemployment, many european college graduates are going wherever the jobs are in the world. As I said, they are more traveled and learn more languages than Americans.
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Old 12-30-2012, 01:23 PM
 
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One problem with seniors fleeing for Asia, India, and other less expensive parts of the world is that it's really only a solution for the first few waves of people. As more people take this route, the amenities in those countries will become more crowded, less attractive, and less available.
the amenities of those countries will be improved as westerner standard of care are much higher.
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