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Old 11-11-2007, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Mayacama Mtns in CA
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LOL, here in the PNW we talk about having 'sun breaks'. . . and yes, there are grey & cloudy days, but many of those days have at least a few sun breaks. IMHO, it's just not that bad. In this life, nothing is perfect, and this extends to the weather. Let's give it some perspective here: it's just weather, and quite moderate weather, at that. Not like it's a life & death situation....
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Old 11-11-2007, 06:37 PM
 
Location: home...finally, home .
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Where are you , macrina in the pnw? I am only asking because I am planning on moving from the NYC area to Portland in the late spring as soon as I retire.
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Old 11-11-2007, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Mayacama Mtns in CA
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Hi Nancy....sending you a DM
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Old 11-11-2007, 08:43 PM
 
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My experience was in Seattle, WA. For instance, I can drive 80+ mph in a full blown rainstorm in Seattle and see perfectly 100-200 feet in front of me. The raindrops sort of "strike" my windshield rather than "splatter". I have been to and driven in Texas, Virginia, Ohio, Kansas, Indiana, and other various states. In a full blown rainstorm I can't even drive 10 mph because I can see 0 feet in front of my windshield and this happens FREQUENTLY in a rainstorm. What I do like about Seattle, is that there is a much lower chance of standing water whereas everywhere else it floods like mad with only a few minutes of rain. Seattle has much better storm drainage. As for misery in Seattle, it has to do with the relentless cloudy sky which can last continuously for months. Not seeing the sun can be downright miserable. I think we have one of the highest suicide rates in the country and also one of the highest number of people with seasonal affect disorder. When I went to Texas, I was SOOO happy, I like sunlight. I didn't like texas because the city was too "expansive" and it was really bad driving through traffic in an "expansive" city.
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:24 PM
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Location: The beautiful Rogue Valley, Oregon
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It's true that the reaction to the low overcast and clouds in the winter is pretty individual. I appreciate the green, but I was never really fond of the winter weather in Portland and dreaded the approach. It's not the rain so much as the very low heavy overcast which requires turning every light in the house on. When the kids were young and very busy it was tolerable, but now that they're grown and gone, I have the freedom to move and I did.

The days can be quite short - on December 21st, the sun rises at 7:40 and goes down at 4:30 - that's 8 hrs of light, which is NOT ENOUGH. You get up in the dark and come home from work in the dark. Plus it's wet and cool.

On the other hand, at the opposite solstice, it's 15 hrs, 41 min of light, which is nice. Plus, in the summer, the sunsets are long and slow and the light lingers. It almost makes up for the winter, but not quite. In Washington state they allow all kinds of fireworks on 4th of July (hopefully that will be changing soon, as we've had a couple of fires in my neighborhood over the years), and it doesn't really get dark enough to set them off until around 10:30 or 11:00 and the young children get pretty antsy waiting for the show....

I managed to stave off depression (I am prone to SAD and used light boxes, which helped a bit) by picking January or February as my vacation time - I went to Europe or Hawaii or Mexico or Palm Springs. You get through the November-December holidays because you are SO busy, and you look forward to vacation. And then it's March, and the bigger storms come through, and you get rare "sucker holes" of good weather and it's not so bad.

The upshot being - don't buy, rent through the winter. See what you think. If it's tolerable, then go for it. If you have reservations after just one winter, then you need to really think again. For a lot of couples, it bothers one more than the other.
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Old 11-11-2007, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Default Women always have the final say anyway.....

The ultimate decision usually rests with a woman, a wife, so it looks like you're going to have to make the best of it. I moved from Minnesota to the sunny SW 14 years ago. I didn't move because of the snow (I miss it) or the cold, I just couldn't handle all that cloudiness anymore. I was becoming suicidal. But If you wife INSISTS on that move, regardless of your feelings, make her life such hell, she'll regret she didn't listen to your viewpoints.
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Old 11-12-2007, 07:15 AM
 
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PNW-type-gal... great post! Good information and suggestions. I wonder if being retired when I move will make a difference; at least I won't get up in the dark and go home in the dark since I won't be working. I've thought of vacationing in the winter... sounds like a big help. I've also considered renting at first, but my hobbies make me really want to buy and start getting established with them. Have to think about that one. Any idea how much better the rainshadow area of the Olympic Penninsula is? Also how much different might it be around the Spokane, CdA area?
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:39 AM
 
Location: DC Area, for now
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I'm thinking being retired has to make it easier to get thru the dark of the year. I have the same thing where I am now - it's dark when I leave and dark when I get home. I only see the daylight at work. If I was retired, it would be shorter days but I could do my outdoor things during the 8 hours that are light instead of being in my office.
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Old 11-12-2007, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Wherabouts Unknown!
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Counting Down wrote:
Both of these locations are also far enough north that the winter days are much shorter than I'm used to. For those of you who live in locations like these, how much does it bother you? Which is worse, the weather issue or the short days?
I lived briefly in Anchorage AK, where ( if my memory is accurrate ) the December sun didn't rise until about 9:30 0r 10:00AM and sunset occurred around 3:30PM. The short daylight hours affected me alot more than the cold. Even in my youthful 20's living in a place with short daylight hours in the winter was hard to take. I have lived in places that were colder than Anchorage, but they had longer days, so the cold was much easier to endure. In reality, you may need to do some experimentation to find out for yourself, becasue everybody has different preferences.

blessings.....Franco
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Old 11-12-2007, 03:56 PM
 
Location: home...finally, home .
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I think we have one of the highest suicide rates in the country and also one of the highest number of people with seasonal affect disorder.

I wonder if this is right. It would be a good point to check on before aI decide to move there.
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