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Old 09-30-2013, 07:35 PM
 
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in SSI, do they look at personal or household income?

This person in question will live with working people who have income.

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Old 09-30-2013, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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how about money in cash? SSI maybe?
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in SSI, do they look at personal or household income?

This person in question will leave with working people who have income.
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SSI considers your entire household's income and resources, not just yours.

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Old 09-30-2013, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Idaho
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OP, what is the insistence about having to have CASH??? Even WalMart will take a government benefit check and give you cash. When I hear people only want cash, it is usually for no good purpose.
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Old 09-30-2013, 09:26 PM
 
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There may be issues if the citizen was sponsored to come to the US, in this case, the sponsors income is considered for five years after person came to US, regardless of citizenship date.

Really, this can be so complicated, with so many variables, which seemingly change, in a nanosecond...you go apply for social security. Take all papers...birth certs, marriage certs, citizenship certs..bank info...tax returns, verification of current income.

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Old 09-30-2013, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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she lived overseas almost all her life

She has no income no assets

She was married before the but the spouse is not American nor has any retirement salary or any money coming in

So in this case, what can she do? I understand Medicaid but that is for healthcare

how about money in cash? SSI maybe?
I'm confused.
A US citizen moved to a foreign country (?as a child), married a foreigner, lived in a foreign country "almost her entire life", never worked in the United States but moved back to the United States as a senior citizen (?65 years old) and expects the United States to provide "cash" to her? Or did she become a US citizen when she was already a senior citizen (after being a citizen of another country her entire life)?

Maybe I'm missing something but that seems pretty odd and unusual to me.
Why would someone who lived "almost their entire life" in a different country move to the USA as a senior citizen with no money? Was it because they didn't have any retirement money in the foreign country, "no income" and "no assets" and wanted to get "free money" in the US? I am not trying to be rude, I am really trying to understand the situation.

Maybe I'm missing something quite obvious, but why does the original poster believe that the US needs to support/"provide cash" to a senior citizen if she never lived and worked (or had a spouse living & working) in the US?

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Old 09-30-2013, 10:43 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I'm confused.
A US citizen moved to a foreign country (?as a child), married a foreigner, lived in a foreign country "almost her entire life", never worked in the United States but moved back to the United States as a senior citizen (?65 years old) and expects the United States to provide "cash" to her? Or did she become a US citizen when she was already a senior citizen (after being a citizen of another country her entire life)?

Maybe I'm missing something but that seems pretty odd and unusual to me.
Why would someone who lived "almost their entire life" in a different country move to the USA as a senior citizen with no money? Was it because they didn't have any retirement money in the foreign country, "no income" and "no assets" and wanted to get "free money" in the US? I am not trying to be rude, I am really trying to understand the situation.

Maybe I'm missing something quite obvious, but why does the original poster believe that the US needs to support/"provide cash" to a senior citizen if she never lived and worked (or had a spouse living & working) in the US?
Oh, she's probably this OP's sister/sister-in-law, who married a foreigner whose marriage ended (death/divorce) after 25-30 years or so. So she has no 'family' on her husband's side, anymore.

Earlier it was posted, by earlyretirement, I think, that females marrying certain South American citizens could very well end up with nothing.

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I’m on vacation out of the country so I haven’t been reading the board the past several days and will be out of the country until next week. But I got your DM so I thought I’d answer and I hope others in a similar situation find this helpful.

Just my 2 cents. You need to be aware of the differences in law between the USA and various countries in South America. I’m not sure where in Latin America but you can probably apply this advice to many countries.

First of all, don’t assume that any property will automatically become yours in the event that you marry and something were to happen to your spouse (assuming you get married). I know you didn’t ask this part of it but I still think it’s worth mentioning it. The inheritance laws are VERY strict in some of these Latin American countries.

In some, you couldn’t write your kid out of a last will and testament if you tried. So it would be wise to see what is applicable to you. For example, you mentioned this was his 2nd marriage assuming you get married. You need to be mindful and think about the possibility that any properties/real estate he bought when he was married before he married to you might go directly to his ex-wife or children.

I mention this because I know someone this happened to. She got married to someone from South America and he died. She assumed she was going to be comfortable as he owned many properties. They never had “the talk” and she assumed everything was going to her.

He bought them many decades prior in a previous life and he had an ex-wife and kids. Well, he died and she didn’t get any of the properties at all. So go into a potential marriage talking about all of these things. The laws in Latin America are DRASTICALLY different.

Also, keep in mind that the legal and judicial system in many of these countries are totally broken and can take YEARS and YEARS to untangle in the event of some problem. So even if ultimately you might lay claim to something, his family members can make it difficult and ugly for you.

You mentioned that he owns property with his brother. You need to realize that in many of these countries the brother can make it difficult/impossible for you to ever lay claim to this property. Even if they have a good relationship now, I’ve seen plenty of examples of family members cheating other family members.

If you get married, I’d encourage you to speak to an attorney or Escribano to really map out everything in detail if he wants to leave this property to you. A US last will and testament is typically invalid in many countries so find out what is applicable to the country you are speaking about.

<snip - all the stuff about tax accountants>

It's VERY important that if you do get married, you discuss in GREAT detail with your spouse everything and also discuss with lawyers the best game plan. As well, many times people have no clue how things will end up and no one likes discussing the possibility of death, etc. So you will want to really discuss this as it pertains to South America. "Blood is thicker than water" when it comes to family down there. You should know that going into any potential marriage down there.
Some of the above could be true for the person OP is inquiring about. Which is why she's high and dry now.

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Old 10-01-2013, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA
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Does he/she have a work history that would make him/her eligible for social security?

There is nothing that provides CASH.

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The chances of getting cold hard cash, though, are low.
Social Security gives you cash. The deposit goes directly into your bank account and then go go and withdraw the cash. So technically, the bank gives you cash.

I believe the OP is asking about cash, as opposed to heating assistance, food stamps, Medicaid, etc.
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Old 10-01-2013, 08:01 AM
 
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The chances of getting cold hard cash, though, are low.


Not in NY, where recipients can curiously even carry over cash grant/SNAP balances, allowing them to accrue from one month to another.
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Old 10-01-2013, 08:11 AM
 
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Social Security gives you cash. The deposit goes directly into your bank account and then go go and withdraw the cash. So technically, the bank gives you cash.

I believe the OP is asking about cash, as opposed to heating assistance, food stamps, Medicaid, etc.
Imo, the OP is asking about cold, hard cash, no questions asked.
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Old 10-01-2013, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Stephenville, Texas
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Somehow I doubt they will be eligible for Social Security, if they lived overseas since a baby and never worked and just recently came back. I don't know how SSI works, that could be a possibility. Otherwise, welfare, medicaid, church food pantries are all possibilities. I realize they aren't "cash" but they could help a person survive, I guess.

I think there may be more to the story than we're being told, but I shouldn't speculate on those details.
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