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Old 10-03-2013, 09:52 AM
 
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Just a little tip that works for me. For those that have stiff joints, try eating "fresh pineapple 3 or 4 times a week. A friend passed this along to me and I tried it, with some doubt, and it sure works for me. I was having a bit of discomfort in the knees when climbing and coming down stairs. A few weeks of eating fresh pineapple and it was gone. Then I stopped eating it for a couple weeks and I noticed the knees acting up again. Maybe it will work for you too.


Good tip here -- pineapple is rich in bromelain, which is a natual anti-inflammatory.

Don't forget that Glucosamine w/MSM is also great for your joints.
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Old 10-03-2013, 10:11 AM
 
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I'm not convinced that people age 65–70+ need terribly vigorous exercise. People in Africa, China, the Himalayas, etc live to a very ripe old age and do not run, jog and go to a gym.
They get exercise because they walk everywhere or ride bicycles. And the bikes they ride in China aren't usually ten speeds, they're those heavy, sturdy ones that require a good amount of strength to pedal (especially if it's loaded down with groceries). They garden, repair things, tend goats and chickens, climb steps and often have to climb steep hills.
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Old 10-03-2013, 10:54 AM
 
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People in Africa, China, the Himalayas, etc live to a very ripe old age and do not run, jog and go to a gym.
I suppose it depends on what you mean by "a very ripe old age." Life expectancy for:

Swaziland: Females: 32.15 Males: 31.62

Angola: Females: 39.22 Males: 37.24

Zambia: Females: 38.73 Males: 38.53

Liberia: Females: 43 Males: 40.71

Nigeria: Females: 46.16 Males: 47.76

South Africa: Females: 49.81 Males: 48.13

Nepal: Females: 66.67 Males: 64.3

China: Females: 77.3 Males: 74.79

United States: Females: 81 Males: 76

List of countries by life expectancy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 10-03-2013, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Ottawa Valley & Dunedin FL
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I must admit that I am very low on the self discipline scale. ...
So what I do is make an appointment with myself to go to the Y and do an exercise class that meets at a specific time. I write it on my calendar -- I treat it the same as, say, a doctor's appointment. I get the necessary clothes ready the night before. I don't set other appointments that would conflict with the exercise appointment. And so I go.
This works moderately well for me, although I have lots of lapses. I don't make appointments, rather I use the mantra, "just do it", after I've had my morning coffee. Sometimes it works for me to do my pilates flexibility and core workout, sometimes some tai chi, or small free weights. Sometimes it means swimming a few laps or jumping on the elliptical. Or just some good old housework. I also walk a lot, not for exercise, but to get around instead of a car.

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They get exercise because they walk everywhere or ride bicycles. And the bikes they ride in China aren't usually ten speeds, they're those heavy, sturdy ones that require a good amount of strength to pedal (especially if it's loaded down with groceries). They garden, repair things, tend goats and chickens, climb steps and often have to climb steep hills.
Yes, that's very true. In India, in Bombay, people walk everywhere, sometimes for miles and miles just to do their daily duties. These are poor people who would feel wealthy to any kind of motorized vehicle.

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I suppose it depends on what you mean by "a very ripe old age." Life expectancy for:

Swaziland: Females: 32.15 Males: 31.62

Angola: Females: 39.22 Males: 37.24

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Yes, but these artificially low because of the high rates of HIV in these countries.
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Old 10-03-2013, 02:20 PM
 
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Yes, but these artificially low because of the high rates of HIV in these countries.
True indeed--just couldn't let this romanticized idea that people live to "a very ripe old age in Africa, China and the Himalayas" pass. Especially not Africa--even in the countries without HIV issues the entire continent has the lowest life expectancy of any place in the world. Not that it affects whether or not people in the US would feel better if they exercised more, but sometimes things I read on the internet seem so bizarre I just have to say "what???".
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Old 10-03-2013, 02:40 PM
 
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...Yes, but these artificially low because of the high rates of HIV in these countries.
Have to disagree. The average life expectancy has always been low in what we in an industrialized country call "undeveloped countries". Mostly due to poor diet, poor medical care, not having a decent potable water supply, and the fact they they have to work their butts off their whole lives just to survive.
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Old 10-03-2013, 02:59 PM
 
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You are right. fast recovery after long delays depends on fitness load which is restricted by known empiric formula:

Maximum_heartbeat_rate < 220 - age
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Old 10-03-2013, 03:10 PM
 
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Thanks for the encouragement. "Slow" is a relative word, so it depends on one's perspective. It's quite true that a ten minute mile (6.0 mph) is faster than an extremely slow jog. Three or four years ago I could do a nine minute mile.
And remember that no matter how slow you may be going you're still lapping everyone on the couch!!
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Old 10-03-2013, 03:17 PM
 
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Have to disagree. The average life expectancy has always been low in what we in an industrialized country call "undeveloped countries". Mostly due to poor diet, poor medical care, not having a decent potable water supply, and the fact they they have to work their butts off their whole lives just to survive.
I didn't say their life expectancies would be as high as ours. Just that they are artificially lower because HIV and AIDS deaths pulls the mean down. Probably diseases like malaria do as well. This from WHO:

"Since 1990, life expectancy at birth has increased globally by 6 years, but during the 1990s the value in Europe has showed a stagnation, and in Africa it has even decreased. For Europe, the phenomenon is due mainly to adverse mortality trends in the former Soviet Union countries. The decrease in Africa has been caused by HIV/AIDS, but the increasing availability of antiretroviral therapy has reduced the spread of the epidemic, and the mortality due to HIV/AIDS has been decreasing since about 2005, allowing life expectancy at birth to increase again: average life expectancy at birth in Africa, was 50 years in 2000, whereas it was 56 years in 2011."
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Old 10-03-2013, 03:39 PM
 
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I didn't say their life expectancies would be as high as ours. Just that they are artificially lower because HIV and AIDS deaths pulls the mean down. Probably diseases like malaria do as well. This from WHO:

"Since 1990, life expectancy at birth has increased globally by 6 years, but during the 1990s the value in Europe has showed a stagnation, and in Africa it has even decreased. For Europe, the phenomenon is due mainly to adverse mortality trends in the former Soviet Union countries. The decrease in Africa has been caused by HIV/AIDS, but the increasing availability of antiretroviral therapy has reduced the spread of the epidemic, and the mortality due to HIV/AIDS has been decreasing since about 2005, allowing life expectancy at birth to increase again: average life expectancy at birth in Africa, was 50 years in 2000, whereas it was 56 years in 2011."
Another factor to consider is "average." From doing genealogy I can see that in the past, even when people were poor, if they lived past childhood, they could often live into their 90s. So if they take age 95 and average it in with age 6 months it skews the results. A lot of it is just genetics or luck BUT you can increase the odds if you play it right. For instance I have a relative whose dad died around age 50 of a heart attack and he was overweight. She has always remained slim and is doing really great, ten years older than I am. If you know you are genetically prone to something, there might be something like diet and exercise that you could do about it.
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