Are adult children bleeding their retired parents dry ? (beach, celebrate, grow up)
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Do you assume that everyone your age will agree on the matter and unanimously urge Congress to "cut off" older people's Social Security? If so, do you assume that whatever age groups are in agreement about this will have more votes than whatever age groups are opposed to it? Have you taken into account that many younger people have parents and grandparents drawing Social Security retirement benefits whom they may not want to see "cut off"?
Someone in another forum once threatened that we should only give seniors pain pills and not surgery like hip replacements after the President suggested something similar in one of his speeches so I asked him if he was going to go to his parents house and do their shopping for them, their house repairs and lawn mowing once their chance for mobility was taken off the table.
For the people that want to see seniors cut off from benefits, ask them if they have room in their house for their parents and inlaws to move in. If they hedge, tell them to ask their spouse how they feel about it.
You stated it as a surety, not a mere prediction which is always subject to change. I don't think you've considered the shear magnitude of our generation and the power of the vote it wields. That's the political reality. As in everything political, follow the money!
I think that unless the fiscal course of our country changes quickly, it will happen. Of course other things could happen. Rationing of healthcare would not only rein in those costs but shorten the period over which SS payments were made. And the decreasing effectiveness of antibiotics combined with a lack of new ones could have the same effect. Lots of things could happen, but if we continue on this course, then the choices narrow until finally only one option remains. So, absent external factors, a cut in benefits is an inevitability.
I appreciate the way seniors have used their voting power. What you describe sounds like extortion; the use of power to obtain money from others.
Not sure what you mean by follow the money. That's my point. There won't be enough for everyone, so really we're quibbling over who will be weak and who will be strong. You will acknowledge after lenora's post #90 that the benefits may indeed be cut, right?
Last edited by Glenfield; 11-23-2013 at 11:27 AM..
Do you know how many science and engineering degrees are churned out a year? One university can turn out thousands of them a year, hence why those areas are also saturated now. And then because of that, companies can offer lower wages because people are desperate enough to take it when they have banks demanding repayment of student loans banging at their door.
I know people with said degrees who are also "flipping burgers" aka working in labs washing dishes or just running tests on equipment for $15-16/hr (in expensive places to live), no benefits, and sometimes on "salary" so that when you break down pay per hour they are really closer to $13/hr. I work with people who have part time jobs in addition to their full time jobs in my field as well. Most of them work in restaurants.
What part of "entry level job" do you not understand? First you go to work. Yeah! Then you work even harder than you did in school, do your job diligently, get your LPE, and demonstrate to your employer that you are not just a slacker screw-up.
Nothing has changed in the last 50 years. Nobody is going to let a "still wet behind the ears" recent graduate do anything but scut work while they get their feet on the ground.
You stated it as a surety, not a mere prediction which is always subject to change. I don't think you've considered the sheer magnitude of our generation and the power of the vote it wields. That's the political reality. As in everything political, follow the money!
The Millennial Generation is larger than the Boomer Generation and is still growing (through immigration). The Boomer cohort is beginning to die off and of course, the Boomers' elders are rapidly dying off. That is not to say that the Millennials (and Generation X) will out vote their elders in the next election, but they surely will in the years to come.
Actually, I thought the younger generations (both Generations X and Y) strongly influenced the outcome of the last two presidential elections. Maybe I was dreaming.
This entitlement nonsense can extend another generation. A well off friend of mine was badgered by his grandaughter for a new car when she graduated from college in June. Rather than suffer a "guilt trip", he gave in a got her a brand new Honda Civic. Rather than be grateful, my friend confided that this 22 year old brat was complaining because a Civic is not "Cool", not wheels that her friends would admire, she expected something more upscale. Heaven help us if youth like this are our future leaders.
When I started dating my husband, 34 years ago, the second Christmas his younger brother kept talking about a Porsche. All he wanted was a Porsche.
And he got one. Under the tree Christmas morning was a gorgeous cherry red Porsche.
A Matchbox Porsche....
This entitlement isn't anything new. There's always one or two in every generation that is money grubbing and selfish, and truly doesn't get that the whole world doesn't revolve around them and their wants and desires.
Unless we have magnitudes or relativity, we don't really know what to write. Your observations might be one in a million or one in three - we don't know.
??? I think the question is pretty straightforward.
I think there is an attitude around that it's okay to move back in with your parents at the drop of a hat when there is any crisis. It seems like we prolong adolescence as well and adults stay in their parents house longer than they should.
I think that unless the fiscal course of our country changes quickly, it will happen. Of course other things could happen. Rationing of healthcare would not only rein in those costs but shorten the period over which SS payments were made. And the decreasing effectiveness of antibiotics combined with a lack of new ones could have the same effect. Lots of things could happen, but if we continue on this course, then the choices narrow until finally only one option remains. So, absent external factors, a cut in benefits is an inevitability.
I appreciate the way seniors have used their voting power. What you describe sounds like extortion; the use of power to obtain money from others.
Not sure what you mean by follow the money. That's my point. There won't be enough for everyone, so really we're quibbling over who will be weak and who will be strong. You will acknowledge after lenora's post #90 that the benefits may indeed be cut, right?
No! Politics to bend the..,..what....politicians to vote as you'd like them too. They always have the option of accepting the campaign fund contributions and voting however they damn well please. In fact, as has been proven recently, some of them just plain lie.
It's all what I refer to as "real politik." Or to put it another way, "Poli," in Latin, meaning "many." "Tics" meaning "blood-sucking creatures!" Politics! Capisce?
Of course it could always be cut but in less you derive some strange pleasure from turning blue and passing out, I wouldn't recommend holding your breath.
For the record, it wouldn't be the seniors who would be the extortionists.
By the way, Glenfield, this thread is supposed to be about adult children bleeding their parents dry, not the other way around.
No! Politics to bend the..,..what....politicians to vote as you'd like them too. They always have the option of accepting the campaign fund contributions and voting however they damn well please. In fact, as has been proven recently, some of them just plain lie.
It's all what I refer to as "real politik." Or to put it another way, "Poli," in Latin, meaning "many." "Tics" meaning "blood-sucking creatures!" Politics! Capisce?
Of course it could always be cut but in less you derive some strange pleasure from turning blue and passing out, I wouldn't recommend holding your breath.
For the record, it wouldn't be the seniors who would be the extortionists.
By the way, Glenfield, this thread is supposed to be about adult children bleeding their parents dry, not the other way around.
Could we get the moderator to tell Glenfield to take his SS diatribes to the Politics and Controversies thread? I'd like to read about people's experiences with the OP's question, not about people's opinions on SS.
??? I think the question is pretty straightforward.
I think there is an attitude around that it's okay to move back in with your parents at the drop of a hat when there is any crisis. It seems like we prolong adolescence as well and adults stay in their parents house longer than they should.
Here's some irony..... Adult kids complain become mom and dad won't give up the big house and get something more manageable. Sadly, the reason mom and dad kept the big house for so long, is that the front door was always swinging back and forth. How can parents downsize, when their adult children are "failing to fly"? The same adult children who are constantly coming back home (and having to help keep the place up, while they're there), b*tch because "Mom and Dad just can't keep up with it, anymore". They're just too pitifully lazy to accept responsibility for the place they're currently living in. It all boils down to irresponsibility...plain and simple.
The sad part, is that some parents love their children so much, that they'll sacrifice everything for them....just to see that they're "okay". No matter how old those children are, they are still their babies...their responsiblity. In other words, their parents FEEL a sense of responsibility. Where did that sense of responsibility go, WyoEagle? That's what I want to know. Where, in our society, did people go so wrong? When did "being irresponsible" become so acceptable?....and tolerable?
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Maybe I was dreaming.
Heaven help us if youth like this are our future leaders.
