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Old 04-12-2014, 02:22 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Thanks for sharing this and the link. I don't care for alcohol but I think I'm at the "desperate" stage with all the medications I take at the moment. Yikes.

I have a question about your pain scale. I've usually heard it the other way around (with 1 being the least amount of pain and 10 being the worst imaginable pain ever). Do different states or doctors use this scale the other way? I'm asking because sometimes people will use the quantifiers, but sometimes they don't. I don't want to end up in a hospital somewhere outside my current state and misunderstand the question.

I was still half asleep when I wrote this. You're right I had the pain scale backwards

I don't care much for alcohol either,especially gin,same goes for raisins. I was desperate too and figured I'd give it a try. I put them in my cereal or throw some in a sandwich and have learned to tolerate them as they work great for me.

I use a jelly jar and only fill it half way with each,it seems to dry out and evaporate quicker than a full bowl full. 7-10 days and they're good to go then I put them in a small tupperware jar, refill the jelly jar with a new batch while eating the ones in the tupperware. Good luck!
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Old 04-12-2014, 02:44 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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I was still half asleep when I wrote this. You're right I had the pain scale backwards

I don't care much for alcohol either,especially gin,same goes for raisins. I was desperate too and figured I'd give it a try. I put them in my cereal or throw some in a sandwich and have learned to tolerate them as they work great for me.

I use a jelly jar and only fill it half way with each,it seems to dry out and evaporate quicker than a full bowl full. 7-10 days and they're good to go then I put them in a small tupperware jar, refill the jelly jar with a new batch while eating the ones in the tupperware. Good luck!
Ah, I see. I have been sleep-deprived for years now. ;-0 Thanks for explaining.

That's a good idea. I sent out for raisins and gin this morning and have them soaking now. I've considered cutting off my own leg as a way to reduce the pain in my knee. So, I figured I'd give this a try before I fire up the chainsaw. ;-)

All the best!
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Old 04-12-2014, 06:56 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Just remember to use the golden raisins,I use the cheapest gin available. There's a lot of articles on this if you Google "gin soaked raisins" In the first link there's a lot of good comments from people and their success stories.

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. Golden raisins are sultana grapes, to which sulfur dioxide has been added to keep them golden. Sultana grapes are from Turkey, Greece, Iran or South Africa. In the U.S., they are cultivated under the name Thompson seedless grapes. These grapes are rich in the compounds resveratrol, catechins, potassium and vitamin C. Both resveratrol and catechins are antioxidant compounds, which also demonstrate anti-inflammatory activity. Arthritis pain involves inflammation of the joints. So possibly, these compounds are implicated in the efficacy of the gin-soaked raisin arthritis remedy.On top of that, the sulfur dioxide used to keep golden raisins golden also possesses anti-inflammatory properties.
Gin-Soaked Raisins May Alleviate Pain | Fox News
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Old 04-13-2014, 03:16 AM
 
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AADAD, what new medications are you referring to that control inflammation and pain from arthritis?

The only medication I know of for osteoarthritis is Celebrex (which is not new) which does not work for me.

And biologics such as Humira for specifically psoriatic arthritis which is not the common osteoarthritis.

There are medications for Rheumatoid Arthritis, but most of us have the very common osteoarthritis, not rheumatoid.
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Old 04-13-2014, 08:30 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Hi Gixxer1K - I ordered golden raisins. Thanks for the reminder.

Matisse12, I didn't mention new drugs, but I also have OA really, really bad in my right knee (you can see it's deformed from the outside so I always wear something that covers it).

I see a Pain Management doctor and now I'm on a combination of Nucynta and liquid hydrocodone/Tylenol. My pain doctor does not agree with me using a brace so my leg tires very quickly. I had my bedroom moved to the first floor because I was in too much pain trying to get up and down (and often fell down). She gave me a form for the DMV for a placard after my Ortho told me "too bad." I had already started ordering groceries online because I couldn't make it through the grocery store.

I hope you find a doctor that can help.

All the best,
MJ

P.S. ETA: Celebrex didn't help me at all. Vioxx scared me because it was part of some class action suit. I can't think of any others I tried along the way.

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Old 04-13-2014, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Waterville
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See a Rheumatologist.
I rely on my primary to refer me to the rheumatologist as needed. My primary knows me well and I can't say that for any of the specialists I see. I also do a lot of my own research and I am not aware of any new meds for OA. Celebrex does zip for me.
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Old 04-13-2014, 09:02 AM
 
Location: middle tennessee
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Does anyone use osteo bi-flex? I have psoriasis/arthritis. It worked great for me.... even cleared skin and nails, but it didn't work with thyroid and heart meds. I am thinking of trying again to see if a smaller dose works. This has been my hardest year so far. Aspirin works too, but in the dose needed to control pain, I am sick from the side effects.

I wish it was rum and raisens instead of gin

To the OP: my bones are good at predicting the weather I hope you all find a place to live that gives you ease.
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Old 04-14-2014, 04:01 AM
 
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mjd07, yes, your Nucynta and liquid hydrocodone/Tylenol are strictly for pain as opposed to alleviating inflammation unless I need to read more in depth about those two painkillers you are taking.

AADAD claimed that there are new drugs for inflammation and arthritis - yes, there are drugs for Rheumatoid Arthritis and Psoriatic Arthritis (biologics such as Humira), but my understanding is that there are no new drugs for Osteoarthritis which is the most common form of arthritis. No doctor out of many has ever had a drug to recommend to me for osteoarthritis beyond Celebrex, and I've seen a rheumatologist too.

Celebrex (for osteoarthritis) does not work for me and two other posters mention Celebrex does not work for them either. There is Lyrica for fibromyalgia - and I think some people might take it for osteoarthritis hoping it might help, but it is really for fibromyalgia.

(Bextra and Vioxx were for osteoarthritis but both of those are off the market now, and Bextra like Celebrex (they were very similar) did not work for me.)

Over the counter Osteo bi-flex is just Glucosomine Chondritin, I'm pretty sure - and Glucosomine and Chondritin have been shown in recent studies not to be effective against osteoarthritis, but if a person finds it works for them, that's great.
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Old 04-14-2014, 06:19 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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mjd07, yes, your Nucynta and liquid hydrocodone/Tylenol are strictly for pain as opposed to alleviating inflammation unless I need to read more in depth about those two painkillers you are taking.
No. You're right. I also take Tizanidine which is a muscle relaxer that causes sleep. I can't fall asleep or stay asleep because the pain is too much. Sometimes, it will jolt me into completely wakefulness if I move my leg the "wrong" way in my sleep. I guess I don't take anything specifically for inflammation since the Celebrex didn't work.

I'm getting kind of nervous about being in a wheelchair. I'm falling down more lately and my other leg (the "good" one) is having a weird, stabbing pain deep in the calf. It's worsened over this past weekend. My quality of life is already greatly diminished with one damaged leg. I can't even believe I'm having to consider a wheelchair at my age.

I hope you are able to find some relief.
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Old 04-14-2014, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Whidbey Island, WA
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AADAD, what new medications are you referring to that control inflammation and pain from arthritis?

The only medication I know of for osteoarthritis is Celebrex (which is not new) which does not work for me.

And biologics such as Humira for specifically psoriatic arthritis which is not the common osteoarthritis.

There are medications for Rheumatoid Arthritis, but most of us have the very common osteoarthritis, not rheumatoid.
Osteoarthritis can be quite painful. If it's just aching joints which don't really affect you then carry on =)

The medications are known at tumor necrosis factor blockers and they do include enbrel humira remicade and several others. They work well however only a Rheumatologist can evaluate their use. Very safe and very helpful in certain conditions.
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