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Old 04-26-2014, 09:07 AM
 
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If someone has an actual sleep disorder, nothing really works and herbs and vitamins are a joke. Drugs impair one's daytime functions and worse, if one takes something really effective, it is impossible to come out of a deep sleep and function well enough to shoot an intruder. I'm not joking about this. I've suffered with serious sleep disorders for years and tried everything.
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Old 04-26-2014, 09:16 AM
 
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If someone has an actual sleep disorder, nothing really works and herbs and vitamins are a joke. Drugs impair one's daytime functions and worse, if one takes something really effective, it is impossible to come out of a deep sleep and function well enough to shoot an intruder. I'm not joking about this. I've suffered with serious sleep disorders for years and tried everything.
Ok, so now I'm curious. Just how often do you need to come out of a deep sleep and shoot an intruder?
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Old 04-26-2014, 10:32 AM
 
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Ok, so now I'm curious. Just how often do you need to come out of a deep sleep and shoot an intruder?
I don't know about that, but I had to come out of a deep sleep once to tell my son-in-law to get a job, or I'd throw him out of my basement.
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Old 04-26-2014, 10:42 AM
 
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Always thought I was born to be a night person, yet a few years ago I decided to switch things around so as to be awake mornings. It was successful. I go to bed at eleven, awaken at six and get up. Rarely nap and can barely stay awake until bedtime, but if I go the bed earlier, I wake up earlier.

During my adult life, I've taken many things to help with sleep. As it happens, after inheriting essential tremors later in life, Meripex is a medicine which keeps the tremors calm and also puts me to sleep at night in combination with a generic Dramamine. I also have benign postural positional vertigo which means if I don't take the Dramamine I feel like the bed is rocking when I lie down. My mom had the same thing, except hers was the vertical type. Mine is the horizontal type for which I'm glad. The rocking isn't nearly as bad as it used to be. Sometimes it would feel like large animals were having a fight under the bed or that one of them jumped on top of the mattress and continued jumping. While I knew it hadn't really happened, sometimes I had to peek to be positive.
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Old 04-26-2014, 10:45 AM
 
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You can buy Melatonin to help fall asleep. I am not sure how long one could take it, but it would be safe to take for a couple of months, I think. Read the label and start with the lowest available dose. Melatonin in an OTC med.
I've had insomnia for over 20 years. I have had VERY bad dreams when using melatonin. It's not supposed to be used daily for long periods of time (over a week at a time), so I was only using it about once a week. I stopped taking it at all, then took it once a couple weeks ago, and once last night, and the bad dreams were so disturbing I was awake for hours after them. I looked online when I first noticed this happening, because I rarely dream anymore, and it's a common side effect. That's why I gave it two more tries, and yep, nightmare city.

I find the best thing for me, personally, is a Benadryl. I can't take them during the day because they make me too drowsy, and a doctor recommended taking one before bed. Soaking in a hot bath for 10 minutes also helps me - even a hot shower will do in a pinch.

Like many other issues, one size doesn't fit all. You have to experiment to see what works best for you. I will say, though, that none of the doctors I've ever been to will prescribe Ambien.
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Old 04-26-2014, 11:21 AM
 
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I have restless leg and drink diet tonic water which contains quinine, as the doctor suggested. Another problem was leg cramps and found pills in drug store for leg cramps.

If I wake in the middle of the night, a small glass of milk seems to do the trick. I am very active during the day, walking 2 miles, gardening, workshop, line dancing, water aerobics, etc. so doubt if the problem for me is lack of exercise.

My spouse has problems falling asleep and uses 5 mg of Ambien at times, although many times that doesn't work either. Her mind races around. Sometimes the milk works for her, other times not so good.
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Old 04-26-2014, 11:23 AM
 
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I use a small dose of prescription seroquel (12.5 mg) before bedtime...works like a charm. The smallest dose is 25 mg, so you have to break the tablet in half. I sleep soundly and no drug hangover in the morning. My doctor told me that lots of people are on it. Ambien and lunesta did nothing for me. Most of the OTC sleep meds are just diphenhydramine...an antihistamine.

A friend of mine who is a pharmacist to nursing homes told me that almost every doctor puts patients in a nursing home on seroquel so that they sleep soundly. Seroquel just came out in a generic.
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Old 04-26-2014, 11:28 AM
 
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I use a small dose of prescription seroquel (12.5 mg) before bedtime...works like a charm. The smallest dose is 25 mg, so you have to break the tablet in half. I sleep soundly and no drug hangover in the morning. My doctor told me that lots of people are on it. Ambien and lunesta did nothing for me. Most of the OTC sleep meds are just diphenhydramine...an antihistamine.

A friend of mine who is a pharmacist to nursing homes told me that almost every doctor puts patients in a nursing home on seroquel so that they sleep soundly. Seroquel just came out in a generic.
I'm not sure I would want to take a chance with the side effects. It appears Seroquel is prescribed short term for bipolar.

SEROQUEL XR (quetiapine fumarate) Side Effects
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Old 04-26-2014, 11:39 AM
 
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What bothers me as I read these posts is that some people seem to be self medicating without the benefit of a sleep study. Sleep disorders are serious stuff and can cause a myriad of other health problems, and if you have a long period of time where you are not sleeping well, a formal sleep study is usually recommended. The results should be read and interpreted by a board certified sleep specialist, and recommendations also should be made by a sleep specialist.
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Old 04-26-2014, 04:56 PM
 
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Ok, so now I'm curious. Just how often do you need to come out of a deep sleep and shoot an intruder?
I live 20 minutes from the Mexican border: twice in 30 years I was wakened by someone trying to kick in the door at night. A year ago, there was an officer involved shooting at the front of my drive: one shotgun blast, 11 pistol shots. A few years ago, a house down the road had a day time burlary; they slit the family dog's throat.
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