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Old 04-26-2014, 04:57 PM
 
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Always thought I was born to be a night person, yet a few years ago I decided to switch things around so as to be awake mornings. It was successful. I go to bed at eleven, awaken at six and get up. Rarely nap and can barely stay awake until bedtime, but if I go the bed earlier, I wake up earlier.

During my adult life, I've taken many things to help with sleep. As it happens, after inheriting essential tremors later in life, Meripex is a medicine which keeps the tremors calm and also puts me to sleep at night in combination with a generic Dramamine. I also have benign postural positional vertigo which means if I don't take the Dramamine I feel like the bed is rocking when I lie down. My mom had the same thing, except hers was the vertical type. Mine is the horizontal type for which I'm glad. The rocking isn't nearly as bad as it used to be. Sometimes it would feel like large animals were having a fight under the bed or that one of them jumped on top of the mattress and continued jumping. While I knew it hadn't really happened, sometimes I had to peek to be positive.
Mirapex is used for the restless leg thing - I take it but it has some very undesireable side effects.
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Old 04-26-2014, 04:59 PM
 
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What bothers me as I read these posts is that some people seem to be self medicating without the benefit of a sleep study. Sleep disorders are serious stuff and can cause a myriad of other health problems, and if you have a long period of time where you are not sleeping well, a formal sleep study is usually recommended. The results should be read and interpreted by a board certified sleep specialist, and recommendations also should be made by a sleep specialist.

Totally agree. I regret having waited over 20 years to get one. It revealed a much worse situation than I ever imagined. But at least now I understand what is occurring.
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Old 04-26-2014, 05:35 PM
 
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Yes and sleep apnea has been linked to insomnia, weight gain, heart attack, stroke, depression, fatigue, and a myriad of other conditions. Heidi60 has it right. Get a full sleep study at a sleep center if you are having sleep problems that continue month after month.
They are discovering that OSA - Obstructive Sleep Apnea - is much more common than previously believed.

Less than 5 apneas (stopped breathing events while sleeping) is considered normal, 5 - 15 is a mild case, 15 - 30 is moderate, and over 30 is severe.

Loud snoring can be a sign of OSA, but there are other indicators as well. OSA is more common in overweight or obese people, but plenty of thin people have it as well. It is also more common in older adults (over 40) but even children can have it.
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Old 04-26-2014, 06:10 PM
 
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Mirapex is used for the restless leg thing - I take it but it has some very undesireable side effects.

I am curious, LivingDeadGirl, what side effects do you see with Mirapex? I take it too but haven't noticed (or havent associated) any.
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Old 04-26-2014, 08:18 PM
 
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I am curious, LivingDeadGirl, what side effects do you see with Mirapex? I take it too but haven't noticed (or havent associated) any.
I don't take Mirapex but dh did and when I read the long term effects I didn't like them much. Pancreatic damage was one, I think. We experimented and put him on magnesium and zinc so he doesn't need the Mirapex anymore. When he was really suffering badly from the restless legs it was a Godsend to have the Mirapex so I'm not saying it's all bad.
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Old 04-26-2014, 09:24 PM
 
Location: California
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I too am frustrated that some are medicating without the benefit of a sleep study. Again, I just can't tell you how important it is to find out the cause of sleep issues. I have experienced bad dreams related to not being able reach a good rem sleep stage because the apnea would cause me to wake up without realizing it. Because you don't totally wake up when you have an event, you don't know it is happening, which makes it easy to dismiss.

Untreated sleep apnea can:

Increase the risk of high blood pressure, heart attack, stroke, obesity, anddiabetes
Increase the risk of, or worsen, heart failure
Make arrhythmias (ah-RITH-me-ahs), or irregular heartbeats, more likely
Increase the chance of having work-related or driving accidents
Sleep apnea is a chronic condition that requires long-term management.

What Is Sleep Apnea? - NHLBI, NIH

Please, please, take a few minutes to read the above link!

LivingDeadGirl, I'm glad you have done your research. I hope things calm down for you.

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Old 04-26-2014, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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What bothers me as I read these posts is that some people seem to be self medicating without the benefit of a sleep study. Sleep disorders are serious stuff and can cause a myriad of other health problems, and if you have a long period of time where you are not sleeping well, a formal sleep study is usually recommended. The results should be read and interpreted by a board certified sleep specialist, and recommendations also should be made by a sleep specialist.
Yeah, I guess. If you go for a sleep study you will definitely come out with a Cpap. I'm not saying some of us might not need a C pap, but I really, really don't want one. My sleep probs are a nuisance at worst. I went through much worse during perimenopause. I do much better now than then. So, I think I don't need a sleep study, and I would be really upset if I had to deal with a C pap. By they way, my oxygenation rate is good, so I doubt I have an actual sleep disorder.

That would be clue to needing a C pap, if my info is correct. If you are having probs sleeping and there isn't much oxygen in your blood, you might need a sleep study.

Thankfully, I don't. I just have trouble getting to sleep sometimes.
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Old 04-26-2014, 10:19 PM
 
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Less dramatic than the stuff here, but (I'm guessing) is common problem is my mom's situation.

She generally woke early and went to bed early. But in retirement, she was less active, so wasn't "tired" early. So she started going to bed later. But, she still woke early. After several months of this, her sleep pattern was totally Moderator cut: language up. She doesn't take medicine casually. But her doctor put her on a sleeping drug for two weeks, at a carefully chosen time, to re-establish a sleep pattern. And that stuck, for several years. I'm guessing she managed to re-set her sleep expectations to fit the new level of less activity.

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Old 04-27-2014, 08:40 AM
 
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I am curious, LivingDeadGirl, what side effects do you see with Mirapex? I take it too but haven't noticed (or havent associated) any.
Check out some of the websites that list the side effects. I unfortunately have the rare ones which include the impulse control and psychological. The drug totally changes my personality at the prescribed dose and the generic makes me ill. So.... after about 10 years on Mirapex (the only thing that works), I just do a very small dose and understand and recognize the side effects and am able to control them. Funny huh? I heard that Jay Leno even did a thing on his show about the impulse control issues associated with this drug ! Meanwhile, the sleep disorders are down to a dull roar: violent nightmares with a type of catalepsy, sleeping 10 hours a day because of the poor sleep patterns, etc.

But fyi folks, the sleep doc said that for we old folks, it is typical to have some issues because when we age, our sleep just "falls apart". I guess we are supposed to lie awake to remember all that crazy stuff we did as young adults and to plot and scheme to whom we are leaving all our money !
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Old 04-27-2014, 09:13 AM
 
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I'm not sure I would want to take a chance with the side effects. It appears Seroquel is prescribed short term for bipolar.

SEROQUEL XR (quetiapine fumarate) Side Effects
Like most drugs, seroquel has off-label uses. Sleep issues is one of them. It is used in very high doses of severe depression. 12.5 mg is a very low dose. In fact, they don't make a dose that low. You have to break a 25 mg tablet in half. I have no side effects from seroquel. You could come up with a long list of possible side effects for any drug.

Most of the OTC sleep meds are being used off-label also. Most of them are antihistamines.
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