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Old 04-28-2014, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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I'll post a link to an article I found on Yahoo news this morning about people delaying retirement and why.
Augiedogie, didn't your user name used to be Prairie Parson?
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Old 04-28-2014, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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Linda wrote:

I don't know what color the sky is in Linda's world, but she needs to get out of her cubicle more.. Yes there are a few dangerous govt. jobs, like police and firemen, but they are the exception. As Emmig. wrote, private sector jobs are actually more dangerous. Just look up the category. They are primarily private sector jobs, oil field workers, truck drivers, miners, and construction workers have a much higher death rate than the typical govt. bureaucrat. Govt' bureaucrats tend to work day shift, no weekends, and get every holiday known to mankind off paid. Not only that, but your typical govt. employee gets health care and other benefits. Many private sectors get none.

Emm. Interesting story on your dad and uncle. However, considering your youth, you might want to learn to be not quite so judgmental of your dad and mom. Trust me, life and priorities change when you get older. Many people in my generation don't believe in bankruptcy to get out of the bills they owe, and not shoving their problems on someone else. Its called personal responsibility.
I have a brother who's a NYS trooper and another one who is a state corrections officer. Every time they go in for a shift, they put their lives on the line, and it's not because of something accidental, which is what makes most dangerous private sector jobs dangerous. It's because somebody is trying to do them in.

PS. Corrections officers in NYS prisons do not carry firearms. Think you have the manly equipment to walk among the bad boys at max security places like Attica or Sing Sing with only a baton? I've known people who have turned down secretarial positions in state prisons because the atmosphere freaked them out. Heck, it would freak me out!
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Old 04-28-2014, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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Linda, my advice to you is to just move on and not bother responding to the latest in a never-ending series of diatribes against government employees posted on this and other fora by various people. There is a certain faction who believe that all government workers are overpaid lazy slackers with overly-generous benefits and undeserved pensions and nothing you write will ever change their minds. Stay silent as they pound their keyboards and express their jealousy and hatred of government employees (and all things government-related for that matter). Let them have their moment in the limelight as it were.

They say that living well is the best revenge. Thursday marks the first day of another month and another overly generous and undeserved pension payment hits my bank account. I shall smile to myself as I write down the deposit in my ledger, contemplate how I might spend all of that money, and think of all the bitter anti-government types going about their day trying to ascribe all their failings to us government retirees.
Oh, I know. They're po'd because they think they aren't well paid and don't have decent benefits and they want to drag everybody else down to their level. It's jealousy plain and simple, but I thought I'd put it out there anyways, particularly since, for all their complaints, they aren't in any big hurry to join the government work force.
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Old 04-28-2014, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Oh, I know. They're po'd because they think they aren't well paid and don't have decent benefits and they want to drag everybody else down to their level. It's jealousy plain and simple, but I thought I'd put it out there anyways, particularly since, for all their complaints, they aren't in any big hurry to join the government work force.
I'm in your camp, Linda_d. I spent 34 years as a high school teacher in order to earn a pension I can live on. There were good years and bad years among them. As I look back I wonder how I survived some of the stressful years with my sanity intact. I earned every penny of my pension.

It's one thing to point out that people without pensions have a heavier burden of planning for retirement, but it's quite another to engage in angry diatribes where the jealousy (as you point out) is plainly in evidence. Those diatribes are characterized by insulting language, which is the main give-away. Interestingly, it is the OP who took his own thread off-topic in that direction, as the article he linked to does not get much into that territory.
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Old 04-28-2014, 04:32 PM
 
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You haven't heard...? The USA is fast moving to a 2 class society, just like most of the world population.

The elite in USA Gov are currently luv'n it!
I wouldn't say that when US has some of the highest taxes on corporate and many are moving overseas too lower them. Of course when you have more totally dependent on welfare more are at the bottom and less competition in work force.Those involved in wealth sharing are in a race to the bottom.
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Old 04-29-2014, 12:15 AM
 
Location: Idaho
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"The average age at which U.S. retirees report retiring is 62, the highest Gallup has found since first asking Americans this question in 1991."

I didn't realize so many people retired so early. Lots of City-Data posters talk about very early retirement, of course, but this Gallup poll is a scientifically valid sampling across the United States.
When I read this early this morning, I saw that stat and thought to myself how dumb and stupid I must be. I'm 62 and even though I think about retirement often, (like every day), I don't plan on trashing the alarm clock for another 4 years. "Am I that stupid?", I thought. "What's wrong with me? Why am I not retired like the rest of my age group?

I guess I'd reconsider retiring sooner if the housing market really catches fire. If it goes bonkers again, then I should probably go ahead and sell out and move to a lower cost area where I can get a home without a mortgage.
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Old 04-29-2014, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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When I read this early this morning, I saw that stat and thought to myself how dumb and stupid I must be. I'm 62 and even though I think about retirement often, (like every day), I don't plan on trashing the alarm clock for another 4 years. "Am I that stupid?", I thought. "What's wrong with me? Why am I not retired like the rest of my age group?

I guess I'd reconsider retiring sooner if the housing market really catches fire. If it goes bonkers again, then I should probably go ahead and sell out and move to a lower cost area where I can get a home without a mortgage.
I absolutely do not conclude that you are stupid. The stories of some people who retired at 62 are not success stories, but rather stories of desperation. I am thinking of the ones who lost jobs in their fifties and were not able to find other employment; they lived on their savings until they were finally able to apply for Social Security at age 62, not because they thought 62 was a "good" age to apply but because they were near destitute and needed some income to live on.

"The rest of your age group" is not all retired anyway. The age given is an average age. Plenty of people WISH they could continue to work but cannot for a variety of reasons, including health reasons. So you are actually fortunate that you can continue working.

Another factor is being married and having the spouse employed as well. Combining assets makes things easier, and two people do not require twice the income, especially in the area of housing.
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Old 04-29-2014, 08:07 AM
 
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Linda, my advice to you is to just move on and not bother responding to the latest in a never-ending series of diatribes against government employees posted on this and other fora by various people. There is a certain faction who believe that all government workers are overpaid lazy slackers with overly-generous benefits and undeserved pensions and nothing you write will ever change their minds. Stay silent as they pound their keyboards and express their jealousy and hatred of government employees (and all things government-related for that matter). Let them have their moment in the limelight as it were.

They say that living well is the best revenge. Thursday marks the first day of another month and another overly generous and undeserved pension payment hits my bank account. I shall smile to myself as I write down the deposit in my ledger, contemplate how I might spend all of that money, and think of all the bitter anti-government types going about their day trying to ascribe all their failings to us government retirees.
Bada Bing and we are living well, so enjoy on happy people whether or not a pensioner. Do people realize Texas has. Pension funding level of about 95 percent and govt leaders pride themselves on how fiscally sound the pension is? The governor is even collecting two pensions. I started a thread with state funding levels and the guarantee language of the states pensions linked.

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