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Old 05-16-2014, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Glenbogle
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I've pretty much given up looking at any of these "Best Places to..." lists, because they're usually too one- (or at the most, two-) dimensional.

What I'd be interested to see would be a list for "Best Places to Retire" based on fast/nearby access to EXCELLENT medical care (hospitals, etc). I bet it would probably match the typical "most expensive places to.." lists, though, because most will be either in or near major cities.
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Old 05-16-2014, 11:59 AM
 
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These list always make me chuckle. I think there should be some range of sizes metro areas they compare (within some kind of range). To compare Danville Il and NYC is ridiculous IMHO. Why not Metamora IL or even smaller towns. Of course the cost is going to be less in a tiny town.
Yes. And the statistics presented, while probably the most recently calculated ... are about 1.5 years old by now. There can be wide or significant swings in COL in the communities and what we see today can be very different a year or two from now. It's an interesting read, but I certainly wouldn't make a decision relocation using the information as the determining factor.
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Old 05-16-2014, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I've pretty much given up looking at any of these "Best Places to..." lists, because they're usually too one- (or at the most, two-) dimensional.

What I'd be interested to see would be a list for "Best Places to Retire" based on fast/nearby access to EXCELLENT medical care (hospitals, etc). I bet it would probably match the typical "most expensive places to.." lists, though, because most will be either in or near major cities.
They put out that list. If that is your priority then just look for "top hospitals in the US".


Top 10 hospitals in the United States - CNN.com
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Old 05-16-2014, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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One thing I would wonder about is the amenities these places have to offer senior citizens. I can't see myself moving to many because they don't have what I need. My choice, to which I am moving in a few weeks is Cleveland Hts, Ohio. It has bus service, is located four miles from the Cleveland Clinic which is a big reason for my move, a neighborhood that is a couple of blocks from a grocery store and other shopping. There are also other advantages for seniors. All this and a reasonable COL.

This "Best Places" lists are never really accurate. Best places for whom?
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Old 05-16-2014, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Glenbogle
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The list in the OP makes no separate mention of Long Island or any part thereof. Are we to assume it's part of the "New York/Newark/Jersey City" group? Nobody in their right mind would describe LI as anything other than "very high cost of living".

Any list that would group LI with NJ and PA is inherently flawed, LOL.
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Old 05-16-2014, 12:52 PM
 
Location: SW Florida
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We took the opposite approach by re-locating from Houston (52) to Philadelphia (20). Building careers in a less expensive Houston allowed us to sock away cash so we could pick where we wanted to live when the time came. While more expensive, our quality of living took a giant step by re-locating.

I've generally found you get what you pay for. Our move to Philly is no exception.
Well, SOMEONE gets what you pay for, might not necessarily be you.....
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Old 05-16-2014, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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We took the opposite approach by re-locating from Houston (52) to Philadelphia (20). Building careers in a less expensive Houston allowed us to sock away cash so we could pick where we wanted to live when the time came. While more expensive, our quality of living took a giant step by re-locating.

I've generally found you get what you pay for. Our move to Philly is no exception.
That interesting statement leads to a rather open-ended discussion, so I'll jump in. First, I have no doubt that in your particular case (leaving Houston to live in Philadelphia) the statement is true. It makes sense to me, plus of course I have no reason to doubt you. The higher cost of living in Philly is well worth it to you because the quality of life is better for you, probably on multiple levels.

But I question whether the bolded sentence is true generally when applied to the cost of living in different metro areas in the United States. My counter-example would be a comparison of New York City (#2 on the list) versus Los Angeles (tied for #10). Both cities have vibrant and world-class cultural offerings, New York City being ahead in the area of live theatre. New York City also gets the nod for people who wish to live car-free. But there is that huge (for some of us, anyway) factor of climate/weather, and I don't think that needs any explanation.

Of course the whole thing depends on what an individual wants most in a location, but for me the lower cost place (Los Angeles) is a FAR superior place to live, all things considered. I realize I am open to the charge of bias because I live here, but I couldn't resist responding to your interesting thesis that we "get what we pay for" in terms of cost of living. Again, I think it's true in some cases, but not necessarily as a generalization.
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Old 05-16-2014, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Idaho
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How does one get rich? Find a need . . . then fill it. I see a need here.

Whoever writes a computer program that they can sell for about $25 to $35 that allows the user to specify which parameters are most important to them and then spits out a "best place to..." list will become wealthy.

They could issue updates every year, just like TurboTax does. Have a window pop up listing all the variables with a slider to drag from 1 to 10, or lest important to most important. Be sure to include filters, such as, "no city larger than 25,000 permanent population", or "within five miles of hospital".

There are a lot of baby-boomers out there who are tech literate and would purchase such a program. Anybody from here write such a program . . . I want a 'finder's fee"'.
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Old 05-16-2014, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Sierra Nevada Land, CA
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I've pretty much given up looking at any of these "Best Places to..." lists, because they're usually too one- (or at the most, two-) dimensional.

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Yep. This list only takes into account the Cost of living. I'm sorry, but I am not moving to some hell hole to save money.
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Old 05-16-2014, 02:13 PM
 
Location: middle tennessee
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I've pretty much given up looking at any of these "Best Places to..." lists, because they're usually too one- (or at the most, two-) dimensional.

What I'd be interested to see would be a list for "Best Places to Retire" based on fast/nearby access to EXCELLENT medical care (hospitals, etc). I bet it would probably match the typical "most expensive places to.." lists, though, because most will be either in or near major cities.
I didn't move to my to my relatively small ( pop 30,435) university town on the cumberland plateau in tn for access to excellent medical care, but the hospital here appears to be more than adequate and we are a short flight to vanderbilt. Our facility is a "national award winning, state-of-the-art regional medical center that serves the entire 14 county Upper Cumberland region".

I live about 4 blocks away in an older residential neighborhood. Walgreen's and passable grocery (I don't shop there but I wouldn't starve) nearby. Lots of programs for lower income elderly. You have to hunt for them but they are there. Plenty of churches if you're so inclined. They don't bother you if you're not.


we have the university for diversity and "culture".


I didn't look at the list.

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