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Old 05-17-2014, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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These list always make me chuckle. I think there should be some range of sizes metro areas they compare (within some kind of range). To compare Danville Il and NYC is ridiculous IMHO. Why not Metamora IL or even smaller towns. Of course the cost is going to be less in a tiny town.
There are some who want to live in a city, and they are willing to pay 10X more to do so.

I prefer rural, and it is much harder to compare rural areas to each other.
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Old 05-17-2014, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Haiku
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I also prefer rural living but oddly, the place we moved to for retirement, which I think of as quite rural, is more-or-less captured on the list (at #12) - Maui. IMHO Maui is not what I would call urban in any sense. So this is another oddly contrived list that reinforces the fact that one should never use such a list to actually pick where to move to.
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Old 05-17-2014, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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One thing I would wonder about is the amenities these places have to offer senior citizens. I can't see myself moving to many because they don't have what I need. My choice, to which I am moving in a few weeks is Cleveland Hts, Ohio. It has bus service, is located four miles from the Cleveland Clinic which is a big reason for my move, a neighborhood that is a couple of blocks from a grocery store and other shopping. There are also other advantages for seniors. All this and a reasonable COL.

This "Best Places" lists are never really accurate. Best places for whom?
Nice move, I think that area is a great place to retire, along with neighboring University Heights.

As a bonus, you always can take a short trip to the lake.

Beautiful area too, all the way through Shaker Heights and Beachwood.

Great cultural opportunities too, with a huge theater district and first rate museums. And your library system...

http://www.playhousesquare.org/about...layhousesquare
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Old 05-18-2014, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Glenbogle
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Cleveland Heights is a great example of why what's perfect for one person might be out of the question for another. I took a quick look at its' stats on C-D and there are three things that would make that city a non-starter for me, despite proximity to excellent medical care (which is important to me) and affordable COL (which is ditto): the demographics, the crime rate, and the winters (all of which are at least as important to me as the first two)

In the end, it's all about balance and what tips the scales 'for' or 'against' is going to be different for everyone.
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Old 05-18-2014, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Keystone State
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Cleveland Heights is a great example of why what's perfect for one person might be out of the question for another. I took a quick look at its' stats on C-D and there are three things that would make that city a non-starter for me, despite proximity to excellent medical care (which is important to me) and affordable COL (which is ditto): the demographics, the crime rate, and the winters (all of which are at least as important to me as the first two)

In the end, it's all about balance and what tips the scales 'for' or 'against' is going to be different for everyone.
Wow, I just took a look at the Crime Stats! I wonder what caused such a high spike! Interesting that 2008 was left out???


Crime rates in Cleveland Heights by Year

2000 93.7
2001 94.8
2002 92.8
2003 84.3
2004 81.2
2005 81.5
2006 83.7
2007 85.7
2008 ????
2009 152.5
2010 137.7
2011 224.2
2012 303.0

(higher means more crime, U.S. average = 301.5)

What the heck happened!?!

Read more: City Data Cleveland Heights Stats
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Old 05-18-2014, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Glenbogle
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A quick Google shows this: Cleveland Heights residents meet to discuss recent violent crime (LIVE coverage) | cleveland.com

No idea what the outcome was, if any. However, the stats alone indicate a downward spiral.
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Old 05-18-2014, 08:49 AM
 
Location: NC
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Lived all our lives in 14 and are now moving to a small town between areas 167 and 188. We could, in retirement, stay here, but would be limited by $$$ and weather in our desired retirement activities.
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Old 05-18-2014, 09:27 AM
 
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Lived all our lives in 14 and are now moving to a small town between areas 167 and 188. We could, in retirement, stay here, but would be limited by $$$ and weather in our desired retirement activities.
Weather was a major factor in planning our transplant. Now seven winters later and a much different weather pattern all I can say is Thank You Jesus! As the weather man said on Friday this is why people transplant to North Carolina. Just amazing in stretches of Spring and Fall.
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Old 05-18-2014, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Miraflores
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Wow, I just took a look at the Crime Stats! I wonder what caused such a high spike! Interesting that 2008 was left out???


Crime rates in Cleveland Heights by Year

2000 93.7
2001 94.8
2002 92.8
2003 84.3
2004 81.2
2005 81.5
2006 83.7
2007 85.7
2008 ????
2009 152.5
2010 137.7
2011 224.2
2012 303.0

(higher means more crime, U.S. average = 301.5)

What the heck happened!?!

Read more: City Data Cleveland Heights Stats
Mean reversion?
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Old 05-18-2014, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Keystone State
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Mean reversion?
Can you explain that in layman terms? I've never heard this phase, so I looked it up...

Is this what you were referring to...

According to google:

Mean reversion: is the theory that interest rates, security prices, or various economic indicators will, over time, return to their long-term averages after a significant short-term move.

So, Cleveland Heights will most likely to return to its long term Crime Stat averages?
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