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Old 05-17-2014, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Smithville, TX
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President Eisenhower penned to his brother, Edgar Newton Eisenhower, on 8 November 1954:


"Now it is true that I believe this country is following a dangerous trend when it permits too great a degree of centralization of governmental functions. I oppose this in some instances the fight is a rather desperate one. But to attain any success it is quite clear that the Federal government cannot avoid or escape responsibilities which the mass of the people firmly believe should be undertaken by it. The political processes of our country are such that if a rule of reason is not applied in this effort, we will lose everything even to a possible and drastic change in the Constitution. This is what I mean by my constant insistence upon "moderation" in government. Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid."



Read more at snopes.com: President Eisenhower on Social Security
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Old 05-17-2014, 01:27 PM
 
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Yes, I can remember when there were moderate Republicans.
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Old 05-17-2014, 01:38 PM
 
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Yes, I can remember when there were moderate Republicans.

and I remember when there were moderate Democrats.

More recently called " Blue Dogs"

They are nearly extinct also.
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Old 05-17-2014, 01:46 PM
 
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I think he like many then realized that SS was headed to a crisis eventually has boomers where being born. Too many supported by too few eventually. Its was a great deal for government when first enacted as they controlled all excess funds other than was going outward. Few people realize the effect of boomers leaving the work force other than just taking their SS; its the excess money coming in that government is use to spending. Its means cuts other than SS or raising taxes to replace. the excess use to spending.
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Old 05-17-2014, 02:31 PM
 
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I doubt many realized back then how many able bodied people would be drawing disability SS.
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Old 05-17-2014, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Smithville, TX
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Gee, I thought it was a Texas Oilman and dog painter, in the name of weapon of mass destruction (WMD), silly me.
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Old 05-17-2014, 04:33 PM
 
Location: VT; previously MD & NJ
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I think he like many then realized that SS was headed to a crisis eventually has boomers where being born. Too many supported by too few eventually.
Don't think Ike could have realized that. People then had larger families... there were many more babies being born than there were adults living at the time. The population inversion came when boomers had fewer children per family than all previous generations. Part of that was because the pill came along. Ike couldn't have known that would happen.
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Old 05-17-2014, 06:54 PM
 
Location: SW Florida
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I doubt many realized back then how many able bodied people would be drawing disability SS.
Or that folks would live well beyond their retirement ages, and still be collecting SS and Medicare 20+ years beyond that retirement.
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Old 05-17-2014, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Or that folks would live well beyond their retirement ages, and still be collecting SS and Medicare 20+ years beyond that retirement.
Agree with your general thought, but just a detail: Medicare didn't exist during Ike's presidency - it was started under Lyndon Johnson in 1965.
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